1. List will go down in 8 hours
Topica writes:
> Topica will perform routine maintenance starting at
> 6 pm PDT on Friday, July 27 (2 am July 28 GMT) and lasting
> approximately 12 to 16 hours.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
2. Re: List will go down in 8 hours
- Posted by cklester at yahoo.com
Jul 27, 2001
This is unacceptable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Craig" <rds at RapidEuphoria.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: List will go down in 8 hours
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>
> Topica writes:
> > Topica will perform routine maintenance starting at
> > 6 pm PDT on Friday, July 27 (2 am July 28 GMT) and lasting
> > approximately 12 to 16 hours.
>
> Regards,
> Rob Craig
> Rapid Deployment Software
> http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
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3. Re: List will go down in 8 hours
On 27 Jul 2001, at 12:18, cklester at yahoo.com wrote:
> This is unacceptable.
I agree. I have never had a puter down for that long, and would have full
backup instantly available for anyone who relied on me. This is most
unprofessional,, or is this what the profession has devolved to?
Kat
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Craig" <rds at RapidEuphoria.com>
> To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 12:08 PM
> Subject: List will go down in 8 hours
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> > > Topica will perform routine maintenance starting at
> > > 6 pm PDT on Friday, July 27 (2 am July 28 GMT) and lasting
> > > approximately 12 to 16 hours.
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> > Regards,
> > Rob Craig
> > Rapid Deployment Software
> > http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
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4. Re: List will go down in 8 hours
> Kat wrote:
> > On 27 Jul 2001, at 12:18, cklester at yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > This is unacceptable.
> >
> > I agree. I have never had a puter down for that long, and would have
> > full
> > backup instantly available for anyone who relied on me. This is most
> > unprofessional,, or is this what the profession has devolved to?
> >
> > Kat
> >
> > > > Topica writes:
> > > > > Topica will perform routine maintenance starting at
> > > > > 6 pm PDT on Friday, July 27 (2 am July 28 GMT) and lasting
> > > > > approximately 12 to 16 hours.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Rob Craig
> > > > Rapid Deployment Software
> > > > http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
>
> I totally agree with kat This is most unprofessional list I
> have ever seen. The only reason they are shutting down
> is to CHANGE their JUNK ADS because ITS THE END OF THE MONTH.
> They could care less about the users, They are just targets for
> their junk ADS.
> There is no way to complain to them because their e-mail
> is a auto-responder, No one to complain to.
> Rob,
> Isn't there any other list that you can advertize on that
> at least CARES about the users and has A BACKUP SYSTEM
> or ALTERNATE SYSTEM while their doing maintainence.
> Maybe Chris knows one he suggested this one.
>
> Bernie
>
What about creating our own mailing list ?
It would require writing an SMTP server and a
CGI web interface. Possible with Euphoria.
Just need a stable machine which is 24h a day up.
(You can get a free DNS name with dns2go)
Regards,
Martin
5. Re: List will go down in 8 hours
On 27 Jul 2001, at 21:57, martin.stachon at worldonline.cz wrote:
> What about creating our own mailing list ?
> It would require writing an SMTP server and a
> CGI web interface. Possible with Euphoria.
> Just need a stable machine which is 24h a day up.
> (You can get a free DNS name with dns2go)
I have the start of an SMTP in Eu, and the POP3 to retrieve the incoming
email,, and there are several SMTP in the archives. Serving the web pages
with an active scripted server is a snap, i've been able to do that for 2 years
now, building pages on the fly.
I can get my isp to make my ip static, and i am online 24-7 anyhow,,, my
only question is bandwidth. I can handle the email, cause that can be done
sporadically and is not time sensitive,,, but even then, if there are 100 msgs
per day to 1000 subscribers,, my isp might balk at 100,000 emails per day.
That's 300Kbytes, and would be 20minutes per day just emailing. I am on a
dialup here, can't get anything better. How many people are on the list? I did
ask about a co-lo box, he wants $135/month to plug in *my* box there,, i
can't do that.
Kat
6. Re: List will go down in 8 hours
----- Original Message -----
From: <martin.stachon at worldonline.cz>
> What about creating our own mailing list ?
> It would require writing an SMTP server and a
> CGI web interface. Possible with Euphoria.
> Just need a stable machine which is 24h a day up.
> (You can get a free DNS name with dns2go)
We can get 10 mailing lists, 50 megs of web space on a fast server,
etc...etc.
from linuxwebhost.com for $10 per month. I have some lists hosted there now.
No ads - you own your site.
Of course, it would be 'better' if the listserver were written in
Euphoria...
but that's unlikely to happen unless we get a dedicated server, which costs
a bit more: $600 per month! Or we could co-locate somewhere,
but that usually costs $150 per month.
Regards,
Irv
7. Re: List will go down in 8 hours
On 28 Jul 2001, at 11:24, Irv Mullins wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <martin.stachon at worldonline.cz>
>
> > What about creating our own mailing list ?
> > It would require writing an SMTP server and a
> > CGI web interface. Possible with Euphoria.
> > Just need a stable machine which is 24h a day up.
> > (You can get a free DNS name with dns2go)
>
> We can get 10 mailing lists, 50 megs of web space on a fast server,
> etc...etc.
> from linuxwebhost.com for $10 per month. I have some lists hosted there now.
> No
> ads - you own your site.
>
> Of course, it would be 'better' if the listserver were written in
> Euphoria...
> but that's unlikely to happen unless we get a dedicated server, which costs a
> bit more: $600 per month! Or we could co-locate somewhere, but that usually
> costs $150 per month.
So what if we left the RDS pages as they are, with Rob and company,, and
did the email ourselves? The email's web interface could be reduced to
regular html links, which would make me happy as a hummingbird in a flower
shop, or a kat in a hummingbird shop,,, hmm, oh, i digressed,, and the web
pages for the listserv can be easily updated with Eu doing the ftp too. That
eliminates the need for bandwidth and instant turn-around. What about the
number of ftp's per day allowed by the webpage hosting company?
Kat
8. Re: List will go down in 8 hours
On Saturday 28 July 2001 11:55, Kat wrote:
> > We can get 10 mailing lists, 50 megs of web space on a fast server,
> > etc...etc.
> > from linuxwebhost.com for $10 per month. I have some lists hosted there
> > now. No ads - you own your site.
> >
> > Of course, it would be 'better' if the listserver were written in
> > Euphoria...
> > but that's unlikely to happen unless we get a dedicated server, which
> > costs a bit more: $600 per month! Or we could co-locate somewhere, but
> > that usually costs $150 per month.
>
> So what if we left the RDS pages as they are, with Rob and company,, and
> did the email ourselves? The email's web interface could be reduced to
> regular html links, which would make me happy as a hummingbird in a flower
> shop, or a kat in a hummingbird shop,,, hmm, oh, i digressed,, and the web
> pages for the listserv can be easily updated with Eu doing the ftp too.
> That eliminates the need for bandwidth and instant turn-around. What about
> the number of ftp's per day allowed by the webpage hosting company?
That $10 rate includes 3.5 gig of transfer per month.
For $26.95 per month, we could get 10 gigs transfer, 50 separate mailing lists
(one for each topic? ;) and 200 e-mail accounts. We could each have our own
maildrop: kat at rapideuphoria.com, irv at rapideuphoria.com.....
Regards,
Irv
9. Re: List will go down in 8 hours
- Posted by mwfch at MWEB.CO.ZA
Jul 28, 2001
But to afford that , at least one person has to regester per month . But if
Rob`s life depends on Eu , he`ll die of hunger 
(personaly I have no
problem with that . Just a joke !)
Ferdi
----- Original Message -----
From: Irv Mullins <irvm at ellijay.com>
Subject: Re: List will go down in 8 hours
> >
>
> On Saturday 28 July 2001 11:55, Kat wrote:
>
> > > We can get 10 mailing lists, 50 megs of web space on a fast server,
> > > etc...etc.
> > > from linuxwebhost.com for $10 per month. I have some lists hosted
there
> > > now. No ads - you own your site.
> > >
> > > Of course, it would be 'better' if the listserver were written in
> > > Euphoria...
> > > but that's unlikely to happen unless we get a dedicated server, which
> > > costs a bit more: $600 per month! Or we could co-locate somewhere, but
> > > that usually costs $150 per month.
> >
> > So what if we left the RDS pages as they are, with Rob and company,, and
> > did the email ourselves? The email's web interface could be reduced to
> > regular html links, which would make me happy as a hummingbird in a
flower
> > shop, or a kat in a hummingbird shop,,, hmm, oh, i digressed,, and the
web
> > pages for the listserv can be easily updated with Eu doing the ftp too.
> > That eliminates the need for bandwidth and instant turn-around. What
about
> > the number of ftp's per day allowed by the webpage hosting company?
>
> That $10 rate includes 3.5 gig of transfer per month.
> For $26.95 per month, we could get 10 gigs transfer, 50 separate mailing
lists
> (one for each topic? ;) and 200 e-mail accounts. We could each have our
own
> maildrop: kat at rapideuphoria.com, irv at rapideuphoria.com.....
>
> Regards,
> Irv
>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
10. Re: List will go down in 8 hours
Irv writes:
> From: <martin.stachon at worldonline.cz>
>
> > What about creating our own mailing list ?
> > It would require writing an SMTP server and a
> > CGI web interface. Possible with Euphoria.
> > Just need a stable machine which is 24h a day up.
> > (You can get a free DNS name with dns2go)
>
> We can get 10 mailing lists, 50 megs of web space on a fast server,
> etc...etc.
> from linuxwebhost.com for $10 per month. I have some lists hosted there
now.
> No ads - you own your site.
>
> Of course, it would be 'better' if the listserver were written in
> Euphoria...
> but that's unlikely to happen unless we get a dedicated server, which
costs
> a bit more: $600 per month! Or we could co-locate somewhere,
> but that usually costs $150 per month.
>
> Regards,
> Irv
Dns2go project provides a free domain name *.d2g.com.
You install a program on your computer, which sends your
IP to them, and they will link the name *.d2g.com with your
IP. You can select a redirection if you are offline.
So, we all can host a mailing list. There are people in
different time zones, so I hope any time is at least one of
our computers up. If there would more then one puter up,
traffic can be distributed between them. Something like Gnutella.
Crazy idea ? :)
Regards,
Martin Stachon
11. Re: List will go down in 8 hours
On 29 Jul 2001, at 15:45, martin.stachon at worldonline.cz wrote:
>
> Dns2go project provides a free domain name *.d2g.com.
> You install a program on your computer, which sends your
> IP to them, and they will link the name *.d2g.com with your
> IP. You can select a redirection if you are offline.
That isn't a domain name, that's subdomain. And it's a redirector service,
that's all. It's useable, as long as you know what it is.
> So, we all can host a mailing list. There are people in
> different time zones, so I hope any time is at least one of
> our computers up. If there would more then one puter up,
> traffic can be distributed between them. Something like Gnutella.
>
> Crazy idea ? :)
Not crazy. I have 3 programs online now, working on multipath irc,
redundant/backup links and all that.
Kat
12. Re: List will go down in 8 hours
Hi Kat,
> > Dns2go project provides a free domain name *.d2g.com.
> > You install a program on your computer, which sends your
> > IP to them, and they will link the name *.d2g.com with your
> > IP. You can select a redirection if you are offline.
>
> That isn't a domain name, that's subdomain. And it's a redirector service,
> that's all. It's useable, as long as you know what it is.
Ok, subdomain. It is not just a HTTP redirector, it redirects all ports to
you.
> > So, we all can host a mailing list. There are people in
> > different time zones, so I hope any time is at least one of
> > our computers up. If there would more then one puter up,
> > traffic can be distributed between them. Something like Gnutella.
> >
> > Crazy idea ? :)
>
> Not crazy. I have 3 programs online now, working on multipath irc,
> redundant/backup links and all that.
You must like the IRC much, you are still talkin about it. Don't you ? ;)
> Kat
Martin
