1. EuForum bug?

Why can't I access messages older than m15396.html? 

Following the "previous" link from there gets me on the "all messages" page.
Entering any message reference earlier than 15396 directly in the address bar of
IE 6.0 also leads me there.

CChris

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2. Re: EuForum bug?

CChris wrote:
> 
> 
> Why can't I access messages older than m15396.html? 
> 
> Following the "previous" link from there gets me on the "all messages" page.
> Entering any message reference earlier than 15396 directly in the address bar
> of IE 6.0 also leads me there.
> 
> CChris

I think that it's because older messages are "archived" and are stored in a
different format. You have to use the search function to find them.

Unfortunately I don't think that there's a reference to the message number
stored.

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"Any programming problem can be solved by adding a level of indirection."
--anonymous
"Any performance problem can be solved by removing a level of indirection."
--M. Haertel
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil in programming."
--C.A.R. Hoare
j.

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3. Re: EuForum bug?

Jason Gade wrote:
> 
> CChris wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Why can't I access messages older than m15396.html? 
> > 
> > Following the "previous" link from there gets me on the "all messages" page.
> > Entering any message reference earlier than 15396 directly in the address
> > bar
> > of IE 6.0 also leads me there.
> > 
> > CChris
> 
> I think that it's because older messages are "archived" and are stored in a
> different format. You have to use the search function to find them.
> 
> Unfortunately I don't think that there's a reference to the message number
> stored.
> 
> --
> "Any programming problem can be solved by adding a level of indirection."
> --anonymous
> "Any performance problem can be solved by removing a level of indirection."
> --M. Haertel
> "Premature optimization is the root of all evil in programming."
> --C.A.R. Hoare
> j.

I don't think so, even though it would have made sense.

Right now, I cannot go furher than m15445.html, which is 50 posts ahead, and
here was no backup yesterday. It looks like there is now a 150 or 160 post limit
to what can be accessed by Euforum, older messages being available only through
the search facility.

Is this an expected behaviour?

CChris

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4. Re: EuForum bug?

CChris wrote:
> 
> Jason Gade wrote:
> > I think that it's because older messages are "archived" and are stored in a
> > different format. You have to use the search function to find them.
> > 
> > Unfortunately I don't think that there's a reference to the message number
> > stored.


> I don't think so, even though it would have made sense.
> 
> Right now, I cannot go furher than m15445.html, which is 50 posts ahead, and
> here was no backup yesterday. It looks like there is now a 150 or 160 post
> limit
> to what can be accessed by Euforum, older messages being available only
> through
> the search facility.
> 
> Is this an expected behaviour?
> 
> CChris

I think that it's the way the web interface has always worked, but I don't think
the code is available so it's hard to say. Rob will have to answer this one.

--
"Any programming problem can be solved by adding a level of indirection."
--anonymous
"Any performance problem can be solved by removing a level of indirection."
--M. Haertel
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil in programming."
--C.A.R. Hoare
j.

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5. Re: EuForum bug?

Jason Gade wrote:
> CChris wrote:
> > Right now, I cannot go furher than m15445.html, which is 50 posts ahead, and
> > here was no backup yesterday. It looks like there is now a 150 or 160 post
> > limit
> > to what can be accessed by Euforum, older messages being available only
> > through
> > the search facility.
> > 
> > Is this an expected behaviour?
> 
> I think that it's the way the web interface has always worked, but I don't
> think
> the code is available so it's hard to say. Rob will have to answer this one.

That's just the way it works.

You have to remember, the whole system "evolved" 
in small increments, over many years.
It wasn't "intelligently designed" from scratch. smile

The message board was added relatively recently,
on top of the existing message archive.
It would be possible to enlarge the number of recent
messages accessible via the message board interface.
I'd have to get Junko to work on that. It's her area.
I'm also getting kind of low on disk space. The message board 
more than doubles the amount of disk space per message. 
Anyway, the message archive contains all messages for more 
than a decade. 

I'd like to open source all this stuff, but there 
are some "secret" things like password mechanisms, spam filtering 
algorithms etc. that it's better to hide from the world.

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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