3. RE: code pages I think
It's relevant because these guys are Euphoria developers and they're =
trying
to bridge the communications gap that is forced upon different language
groups.... Code pages are arcane. How many developers do you know =
that let
you see their thought processes as they work things out? If you do, or =
need
to do. something like this in the future, it'll be here, preserved so =
that
you don't have to bust your brain figuring it out from the ground on =
up.
They've already done the leg work. Sure it takes some weeding through.
That's what a <delete> button's for.
My opinion.
Stuart Cox
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-----Original Message-----
From: CK Lester [mailto:cklester at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:26 PM
To: EUforum
Subject: Re: code pages I think
How is this relevant to EUPHORIA?!?!?!?!
Anyway, Kat's message came up garbage, whereas Igor's came up with the
Cyrillic characters!
Weird. Irrelevant. But weird.
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5. RE: code pages I think
Hi guys an' gals,
I had no idea when I posted my original problem what I
was getting us into!
I first tried setting the font to terminal as was suggested
by ? somebody. That worked fine on the screen, but came out
screwed up on the printer. Maybe the screen was in dos but
the printer was in windows? So I made an ansi code page with
the Excel char(x) function (I think thats it - my excel is in portuguese)
and recoded my text manipulation routines. They are crap in
the dos screen but perfect in notepad or winword, and come out
correct on the printer.
I never saw any cyrilic characters on anybody's emails,
just odd groups of letters with accents. Does this mean that my
clients will be unable to use my program if they don't have the
correct? settings? That their text files filtered through my program
will turn into mush? Thats awful.
JOHN
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6. RE: code pages I think
On 17 May 2001, at 13:17, Stuart Cox wrote:
> It's relevant because these guys are Euphoria developers and they're trying
to
> bridge the communications gap that is forced upon different language
> groups....
It's also helped when someone from Romania came into an irc channel i
haunt, and said something which would be abusive in english, but wasn't in
Romanian. The words he chose, or the translator he used, or something,
produced a word, altho it was incorrectly spelled for an expected english
word, it was correctly spelled for a Romanian word. Since i knew he was
from Romania, i was the only one who knew what he meant, but i don't
actually speak that language. Since i am working on some language
processing code, it helps to have a global perspective. With usa president
Bush promoting more nuclear power plants, for instance, i am looking to
Russian sites for old news (1957-58) on Sverdlovsk, Kyshtym, and Kamensk-
Uralskiy,, altho i still can't write them in Cyrillic.
> Code pages are arcane.
It also matters when a program written by a english-speaking programmer's
code that does heavy string manipulation encounters non-english bytes.
There is lots of code in the Eu archives that is written in a way that
inherently
excludes the use of Cyrillic, for instance, by typecasting out the upper 127-
255 chars, or ignoring them. I have no idea yet how to apply upper() and
lower() to non-english characters. This has affected my coding, and it's given
me more thoughts on items that must be considered in the future. Such as
internally translating the 8bits+codepage into unicode,, or whatever comes
around that's better,, or that i devise for my own use. 16-bit unicode (already
called obsolete) will of course break all my existing code, but maybe not by
much.
Kat
