1. [OT] fin (was: Last Element Notation)

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Ricardo wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Juergen Luethje
>
>> How about using this, in order to prevent Perlification:
>>      s[1..fin]
>>      s[1..fin-1]
>>      s[fin-2]
>>
>> AFAIR 'fin' often appeared at the end of old movies.
>
>
> Strange. You know, "fin" is the Spanish word for "end".

The only Spanish word I knew was "hombre", now I know another one. smile

> Maybe these "old films" originated in Argentina?

Maybe. Or maybe in another Spanish speeking country.
I'm thinking of old black-and-white movies, but unfortunately, I don't
remember more details.

"fin" is also a or the French word for "end":
http://www.wordreference.com/fr/en/translation.asp?fren=fin

"fin." is also the English abbreviation for "finish":
http://www.wordreference.com/english/definition.asp?en=fin


I also found the following review of a book about
"Theories about the end of the movie" (in German, sorry):
http://iasl.uni-muenchen.de/rezensio/liste/staiger.html

There it reads (ad hoc translation by me -- 'Ende' is the German word
for 'end'):
"Up to the sixties, most movies ended with showing words such as 'Ende',
'Fin' or 'The End'. Nowadays often credits to all who contributed to the
movie are shown."

I just can guess, that maybe in the sixties (and before) it was cool,
to write sometimes "fin" at the end even of a German, Swedish or
whatever movie.
(Like it's cool to say "cool" nowadays, not only in English speaking
countries.)

Regards,
   Juergen

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2. Re: [OT] fin (was: Last Element Notation)

I think a more reasonable explanation might be that "fin" is *Latin* for
"end", and of course Latin is the base for *all* Romance (ie, Roman derived)
languages?  Notice that many movies had/have Roman Numerals for the date,
too.

Dan Moyer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Juergen Luethje" <j.lue at gmx.de>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: [OT] fin (was: Last Element Notation)


>
>
> [old text snipped, and quotations reordered]
>
> Ricardo wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Juergen Luethje
> >
> >> How about using this, in order to prevent Perlification:
> >>      s[1..fin]
> >>      s[1..fin-1]
> >>      s[fin-2]
> >>
> >> AFAIR 'fin' often appeared at the end of old movies.
> >
> >
> > Strange. You know, "fin" is the Spanish word for "end".
>
> The only Spanish word I knew was "hombre", now I know another one. smile
>
> > Maybe these "old films" originated in Argentina?
>
> Maybe. Or maybe in another Spanish speeking country.
> I'm thinking of old black-and-white movies, but unfortunately, I don't
> remember more details.
>
> "fin" is also a or the French word for "end":
> http://www.wordreference.com/fr/en/translation.asp?fren=fin
>
> "fin." is also the English abbreviation for "finish":
> http://www.wordreference.com/english/definition.asp?en=fin
>
>
> I also found the following review of a book about
> "Theories about the end of the movie" (in German, sorry):
> http://iasl.uni-muenchen.de/rezensio/liste/staiger.html
>
> There it reads (ad hoc translation by me -- 'Ende' is the German word
> for 'end'):
> "Up to the sixties, most movies ended with showing words such as 'Ende',
> 'Fin' or 'The End'. Nowadays often credits to all who contributed to the
> movie are shown."
>
> I just can guess, that maybe in the sixties (and before) it was cool,
> to write sometimes "fin" at the end even of a German, Swedish or
> whatever movie.
> (Like it's cool to say "cool" nowadays, not only in English speaking
> countries.)
>
> Regards,
>    Juergen
>
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