1. To Kat: Evil Cookies?

This isn't an entirely off-topic post because it has to do with my site that
has relevance to Euphoria.

I have been wondering for a while. How can i cookie contain a virus that can
damage your computer when cookies aren't executed?

I would like to hear your answer.

Ian Smith.

ps . Kat: please reply to solutionnone at hotmail.com


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2. Re: To Kat: Evil Cookies?

On 1 Jun 2000, at 15:51, No Solution wrote:

> This isn't an entirely off-topic post because it has to do with my
> site that has relevance to Euphoria.
>
> I have been wondering for a while. How can i cookie contain a virus
> that can damage your computer when cookies aren't executed?

But it's not only documented that it can happen, Microsoft already
issued bug fixes for some of it. Netscape is also susceptable to
running cookies as javascript code. I run IE thru two serial proxies
which i can program, and i run Opera without the java* and activex
plugins. And to foil worms like Melissa etc, all VB files which those
worms need to execute are not on my win puter. Then there is the
firewall. etc etc etc smile

> I would like to hear your answer.
>
> Ian Smith.
>
> ps . Kat: please reply to solutionnone at hotmail.com

Done, with urls to source code and patches.

Kat

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3. Re: To Kat: Evil Cookies?

Sorry, Ian, but that's like saying an Euphoria source file can't do anything
because it's just a text file. Of course a cookie won't do anything --by
itself. But then comes along a perfectly innocent .exe (or whatever) your
antivirus software lets through because it's really a perfectly innocent
program. All it does is to search for those three or four cookies it needs
to assemble the virus (which is why your antivirus let the cookies pass in
the first place, none of them contain anything resembling a full virus
string), and there you are. Or aren't.

Most modern explosives work that way. Take the Hiroshima bomb: two perfectly
harmless chunks of uranium and a sliding wall (yes, I know it's not that
simple, but that's the basic idea). Two perfectly harmless text files and an
assembler-interpreter. You don't have to be a wizard to write it, just
malevolent.

Cookies are just like any other file. You only download from sites you
trust. You only run programs you can be reasonably certain will do what they
say they will. Do you let strangers into your home, just because they'd like
to?

Cheer up, everybody. Let's write some anti-cookie cookies.

Gerardo E. Brandariz

----- Original Message -----
From: No Solution <solutionnone at HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 7:51 PM
Subject: To Kat: Evil Cookies?


> This isn't an entirely off-topic post because it has to do with my site
that
> has relevance to Euphoria.
>
> I have been wondering for a while. How can i cookie contain a virus that
can
> damage your computer when cookies aren't executed?
>
> I would like to hear your answer.
>
> Ian Smith.
>
> ps . Kat: please reply to solutionnone at hotmail.com
>
>
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> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com


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