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1. EuGTK

• Posted by cran0g in August
• 1132 views

Hi Folks,

Related to my earlier posting about not being able to get win32Lib working, it turned it it was because I had installed the 64-bit version of Euphoria. win32Lib, as the name suggests and I should have realised, is designed for the 32-bit environment.

I glanced at the info page on EuGTK and was wondering if it operates in the 64-bit environment. Doesn't appear to say so on that page.

Can anyone clarify that for me?

Many thanks,

Bill

3. Re: EuGTK

• Posted by cran0g in August
• 1083 views

OK, thanks for the reply. I'll certainly check it out.

5. Re: EuGTK

• Posted by petelomax in August
• 1078 views

Tragic. I knew Irv had lost the faith but I didn't think he'd go that far. There's a pretty old copy at https://github.com/davidbruce/EuGTK ...

7. Re: EuGTK

• Posted by petelomax in August
• 1055 views

As it happens, I'm currently working on a new GUI, which will be 32/64 bit and target Windows, Linux[GTK], and JavaScript. It will be extremely simple, lowest common denominator and all that, maybe too simple for your needs, and at the very least it will be a few more months until it is usable, and definately Phix-only. Right now I'd have to say switch to Phix and use its pGUI... then again I am a little biased.

9. Re: EuGTK

• Posted by jimcbrown (admin) in August
• 1042 views

Is it that old?

When I view https://web.archive.org/web/20230130002417/httphttps://sites.google.com/site/euphoriagtk/Home from a browser with javascript disabled, I can see that it references 4.15.2 as being the latest version of EuGTK. That webpage snapshot was taken in Jan of this year. (With javascript, it seems to constantly reload, making it unusable, in case you're wondering why I disabled javascript.)

Meanwhile, davidbruce's version state's that it is 4.15.0 according to https://github.com/davidbruce/EuGTK/blob/master/src/GtkAboutDialog.e - so only two patchlevel releases have been lost.

(That's from June 2019, so it is a bit depressing to think that in over four years, only two minor patch level updates have been made, but that's a different matter I suppose.)

Anyways, you can browse irv's version of EuGTK - before david bruce did a bunch of pruning - by visiting https://github.com/davidbruce/EuGTK/tree/ce5fbbf47d27d8156c1265a5636d83dbbfa3ad9b

Or if you want you can just download EuGTK directly from https://github.com/davidbruce/EuGTK/blob/ce5fbbf47d27d8156c1265a5636d83dbbfa3ad9b/EuGTK4.15.0.tar.gz

I did find a reference in https://openeuphoria.org/news/390.wc which suggests that 4.15.2 isn't a whole lot newer, having come out in August 2019.

11. Re: EuGTK

• Posted by jimcbrown (admin) in August
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I did some additional sleuthing.

I found this snapshot of the github from 2021 (so after 4.15.2 was released) https://web.archive.org/web/20211206184358/github.com/irvm/EuGTK/

It clearly has the 4.15.0 tarball listed. Unfortunately it's otherwise not too helpful - you can't download the tarball from there, and anything useful like commit history doesn't seem to be available.

Except, that it does helpfully state that the repository only has 29 commits.

david bruce's has 45, but I counted 16 commits from him made in June 2019. If you remove those commits, you get 29.

In other words, david bruce's repo is identical to irv's, plus david bruce's additions. irv doesn't seem to have committed his changes for 4.15.1 or 4.15.2 to github. Hey, at least we didn't lose any public git history for EuGTK...

I tried to search the Internet Archive for irv's site, as I found a reference that the tarball used to be hosted there:

https://github.com/aur-archive/eugtk/blob/master/PKGBUILD

However, the latest that IA has is this from 2016:

https://web.archive.org/web/20161104023250/httphttps://sites.google.com/site/euphoriagtk/EuGTK4.12.0.tar.gz?attredirects=0

I'm guessing that after that, irv switched to hosting the file on Google Drive (as the Jan 2023 snapshot links the download to a dead Google Drive link).

13. Re: EuGTK

• Posted by jimcbrown (admin) in September
• 980 views

You'd have to lead the project.

When David Cuny started this decades ago, he also created a dos32lib to go with it. There was also a refactor of win32lib called Llama/Win32 which was paired with a GTK port called Llama/GTK.

But then Derek Parnell took it over and refused to go multiplatform with it. (In fairness, it is in the name.)

That said, in one sense it might not as hard as it looks. You'd not have to do a rewrite from scratch, you'd simply have to look at where win32lib has 32bit expectations hardcoded and update those to work in a 64bit world (e.g. with regards to pointer sizes, etc). A helpful example might be at https://openeuphoria.org/forum/138066.wc#138066

Some good news for you though, we now have the latest version of EuGTK recovered, see https://openeuphoria.org/forum/m/138030.wc - so you should be able to get that working on 64bit windoze now.