1. InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by petelomax at fastmail.fm Dec 21, 2005
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Hi, I have converted the guts of webshepherd to a routine, but have hit a snag. It works on 5 out of 7 tests, but in two it crashes when calling InternetFileRead (machine level exception), and I have no idea why. The urls I am having trouble with can be found in wget.exw, at: http://palacebuilders.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wget.ZIP I've tried a few combinations of buffersize and safety margin, to no avail. Any help/suggestions appreciated. Regards, Pete -- petelomax at fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again
2. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by C Bouzy <eucoder at hotmail.com> Dec 21, 2005
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petelomax wrote: > but in two it crashes when calling > InternetFileRead (machine level exception), and I have no idea why. The > urls I am having trouble with can be found in wget.exw, at: Pete, Is your example suppose to crash when executed, or am I suppose to change something to see the crash? Because I have tried each URL and they all work without crashing the example. ----If you continue to do what you have always done, you will get what you have always gotten.----
3. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by Bernie Ryan <xotron at bluefrog.com> Dec 21, 2005
- 594 views
just looking at the code. one url has a spelling error in it and the other has no WWWW. in it. Maybe you need to check for some return error. Bernie My files in archive: w32engin.ew mixedlib.e eu_engin.e win32eru.exw Can be downloaded here: http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan
4. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by C Bouzy <eucoder at hotmail.com> Dec 21, 2005
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Bernie Ryan wrote: > one url has a spelling error in it and > the other has no WWWW. in it. > Maybe you need to check for some return error. > Not having the World Wide Web (www) extension would not cause a crash, and a spelling error would just cause a 404 error, not a crash. The examples do not crash on my system at all. When I run each URL I get a DOS box with the page result. Pete what OS are you running, and what version of IE do you have on your system? ----If you continue to do what you have always done, you will get what you have always gotten.----
5. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by Matt Lewis <matthewwalkerlewis at gmail.com> Dec 21, 2005
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C Bouzy wrote: > > petelomax wrote: > > > but in two it crashes when calling > > InternetFileRead (machine level exception), and I have no idea why. The > > urls I am having trouble with can be found in wget.exw, at: > > Pete, > > Is your example suppose to crash when executed, or am I suppose to change > something to see the crash? Because I have tried each URL and they all > work without crashing the example. It all seems to work fine for me, too. listfilter.com/Euforum seems to serve up the default page in the case of a spelling error. But I don't get any crashes (Win2K). Matt Lewis
6. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by Al Getz <Xaxo at aol.com> Dec 21, 2005
- 590 views
petelomax wrote: > > Hi, > I have converted the guts of webshepherd to a routine, but have hit a > snag. It works on 5 out of 7 tests, but in two it crashes when calling > InternetFileRead (machine level exception), and I have no idea why. The > urls I am having trouble with can be found in wget.exw, at: > > <a > href="http://palacebuilders.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wget.ZIP">http://palacebuilders.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wget.ZIP</a> > > I've tried a few combinations of buffersize and safety margin, to no > avail. Any help/suggestions appreciated. > > Regards, > Pete > -- > > petelomax at fastmail.fm > > -- > <a href="http://www.fastmail.fm">http://www.fastmail.fm</a> - Or how I learned > to stop worrying and > love email again > > Hi there Pete, I tried one of the sample calls that you noted 'crashed', but it didnt crash for me. What did happen was for some reason all the text did not 'translate' so i inserted a file open and "printf" statement to print everything that returned to a text file where i could read it with notepad. Here's the first line that returned using the line: res = wget("http://www.listfilter.com/EUforum/missages_full.xml") --crashes "<html><head><title>Euphoria Programming Language - EUforum Message Board</title>" without the quotes. There were a total of 442 lines returned. Perhaps you can provide a description of what you want this program to do? Im not sure what to expect from the calls or what they should do because the func/proc names are fairly brief. This looks pretty interesting though...i guess it would work to download the archive descriptions too and put them all into one text file? Take care, Al And, good luck with your Euphoria programming! My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"
7. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by Pete Lomax <petelomax at blueyonder.co.uk> Dec 21, 2005
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- Last edited Dec 22, 2005
<snip> OK, thanks everyone for testing it. The problems must be my end. I did manage to solve one problem by downloading a newer version of wininet.dll. In answer to the questions asked, not that it really matters any more: It gives me a machine level crash on the c_func call. I am using w98. The wget() function just returns raw data (text) from a html page or rss feed. Since it works fine here on the files I actually want to play with, I'll stop worrying about it. Thanks again, Pete
8. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by C Bouzy <eucoder at hotmail.com> Dec 21, 2005
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- Last edited Dec 22, 2005
Pete Lomax wrote: > > I am using w98. I noticed many people here still use Win98, can I ask why? I see no advantage using Win98 over Win2000 or XP. ----If you continue to do what you have always done, you will get what you have always gotten.----
9. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by Bernie Ryan <xotron at bluefrog.com> Dec 21, 2005
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- Last edited Dec 22, 2005
C Bouzy wrote: > > Pete Lomax wrote: > > > > > I am using w98. > > I noticed many people here still use Win98, can I ask why? I see no > advantage using Win98 over Win2000 or XP. If you have a dial-up connection you do not want to be down-loading 200 meg files just to keep win 2000 and XP secure. Bernie My files in archive: w32engin.ew mixedlib.e eu_engin.e win32eru.exw Can be downloaded here: http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan
10. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by Jason Gade <jaygade at yahoo.com> Dec 21, 2005
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- Last edited Dec 22, 2005
C Bouzy wrote: > > Pete Lomax wrote: > > > > > I am using w98. > > I noticed many people here still use Win98, can I ask why? I see no > advantage using Win98 over Win2000 or XP. > > > ----If you continue to do what you have always done, > you will get what you have always gotten.---- Umm, to not have to pay $90-$200 to upgrade? Although I'm using XP it is an important point. -- "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." - Tom Tomorrow j.
11. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by Craig Welch <craig at singmail.com> Dec 22, 2005
- 582 views
C Bouzy wrote: >I noticed many people here still use Win98, can I ask why? I see no >advantage using Win98 over Win2000 or XP. > Can I reverse the question and ask why one would pay money to change from Win98 to XP or similar? -- Craig
12. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by Jason Gade <jaygade at yahoo.com> Dec 22, 2005
- 612 views
Craig Welch wrote: > > C Bouzy wrote: > > >I noticed many people here still use Win98, can I ask why? I see no > >advantage using Win98 over Win2000 or XP. > > > Can I reverse the question and ask why one would pay money to change > from Win98 to XP or similar? > > -- > Craig > > Well, while I can understand the money issue, here is my reasoning: I bought a laptop that had XP on it. Therefore I figured my desktop should be XP as well. Win XP is more stable and secure than Win 9x. But I only had a few problems with Win 9x. Mainly I justified it to "future-proof" myself. Of course I think the security is still not as good as it should be (you practically *have* to run with administrator privilidges). I still find it easier to administer than Linux/*BSD systems. And I haven't quite got the cash for a Mac yet. -- "Actually, I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen." - Tom Tomorrow j.
13. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by don cole <doncole at pacbell.net> Dec 22, 2005
- 570 views
C Bouzy wrote: > > Pete Lomax wrote: > > > > > I am using w98. > > I noticed many people here still use Win98, can I ask why? I see no > advantage using Win98 over Win2000 or XP. > > > ----If you continue to do what you have always done, > you will get what you have always gotten.---- As I recall the biggest problem I had upgrading from 98 to 2000 was obtaining a computer with a faster clock speed and more ram. $$ Don Cole A Bug is an un-documented feature. A Feature is a documented Bug.
14. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by Greg Haberek <ghaberek at gmail.com> Dec 22, 2005
- 577 views
> Can I reverse the question and ask why one would pay money to change > from Win98 to XP or similar? Windows XP is much more secure than Windows 98. In fact, any NT-based Windows version is more secure than any Windows 9x version. Windows 9x versions have no built-in measures for segregating users' data from each other, nor do they have any real means of keeping [an unwanted] someone out of the machine altogether. If you do have a "login" screen in Windows 9x, you can just hit Cancel to go into the default user environment. I like XP because I have my system entirely locked down. My personal files are encrype, and you *must* log in to use anything, even in Safe Mode. Was it worth over $150? Probably not. Do I stand by it? Definitely. ~Greg
15. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by Al Getz <Xaxo at aol.com> Dec 22, 2005
- 585 views
Pete Lomax wrote: > > <snip> > OK, thanks everyone for testing it. The problems must be my end. I did > manage to solve one problem by downloading a newer version of > wininet.dll. In answer to the questions asked, not that it really > matters any more: It gives me a machine level crash on the c_func > call. I am using w98. The wget() function just returns raw data (text) > from a html page or rss feed. > > Since it works fine here on the files I actually want to play with, > I'll stop worrying about it. > > Thanks again, > Pete > > Hi there Pete, Sorry, i forgot you were using Win98 so the info running in another system probably didnt do you any good. I'll have to reboot into 98 to see if i can recreate your problem. I noticed one thing right away...when i count the number of 'allocates' and compare it to the number of 'frees' i get more allocates than frees. This usually means something is not free'd properly or something like that. It's probably a good idea to go over all the allocates and all the frees and make sure the mem is being handled properly. Take care, Al And, good luck with your Euphoria programming! My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"
16. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by Al Getz <Xaxo at aol.com> Dec 22, 2005
- 609 views
Greg Haberek wrote: > > > Can I reverse the question and ask why one would pay money to change > > from Win98 to XP or similar? > > Windows XP is much more secure than Windows 98. In fact, any NT-based > Windows version is more secure than any Windows 9x version. Windows 9x > versions have no built-in measures for segregating users' data from > each other, nor do they have any real means of keeping [an unwanted] > someone out of the machine altogether. If you do have a "login" screen > in Windows 9x, you can just hit Cancel to go into the default user > environment. I like XP because I have my system entirely locked down. > My personal files are encrype, and you *must* log in to use anything, > even in Safe Mode. > > Was it worth over $150? Probably not. Do I stand by it? Definitely. > > ~Greg > > Hi there Greg, My biggest complain with WinXP is that internet sites seem to have too much control over your computer, even after stopping and disabling many of the so called 'services'. Another problem i noticed is that if you have a file type open with a given program name like "myprog.exe" and then later you want to change it to another "myprog.exe" that resides in a different directory, if you go through the 'open with' file dialog Win XP tells you that it worked, when all along it keeps the old directory name in the registry...which of course means it's still using the same old program instead of the new one with the same name. The only workaround i found so far was to edit the registry and enter the new dir name, but maybe eliminating the file extention from the list (in Windows Explorer) and then starting over might work too. Take care, Al And, good luck with your Euphoria programming! My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"
17. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by C Bouzy <eucoder at hotmail.com> Dec 22, 2005
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Interesting reasons why some of you still use Win98. In my opinion price is not a valid reason not to upgrade. The average Windows OS has a life span of 5-7 years before it is considered obsolete. That equals out to about $25 a year. That is about 7 cents a day, less than a cup of coffee or a soda. How many products have you bought 5 or 7 years ago that you still use today? If you are coding as a hobby then I guess it does not matter what OS you are using, but if you are coding applications for the general public to use, then using the latest tools and technology is very important. One year after Vista is released MS will no longer support Win98. ----If you continue to do what you have always done, you will get what you have always gotten.----
18. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by Bernie Ryan <xotron at bluefrog.com> Dec 22, 2005
- 623 views
C Bouzy wrote: > but if you are coding applications for the general public to use, > then using the latest tools and technology is very important. One year after > Vista is released MS will no longer support Win98. I will bet that there are more copies of win98 being used than win2000 and xp put together. Bernie My files in archive: w32engin.ew mixedlib.e eu_engin.e win32eru.exw Can be downloaded here: http://www.rapideuphoria.com/cgi-bin/asearch.exu?dos=on&win=on&lnx=on&gen=on&keywords=bernie+ryan
19. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by Alex Chamberlain <alex.chamberlain at tiscali.co.uk> Dec 22, 2005
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Bernie Ryan wrote: > > C Bouzy wrote: > > > but if you are coding applications for the general public to use, > > then using the latest tools and technology is very important. One year after > > Vista is released MS will no longer support Win98. > > I will bet that there are more copies of win98 being used than > win2000 and xp put together. I disagree - especially not in Britain! Alex
20. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by C Bouzy <eucoder at hotmail.com> Dec 22, 2005
- 601 views
Bernie Ryan wrote: > I will bet that there are more copies of win98 being used than > win2000 and xp put together. Hi Bernie, That is a bet you would lose :) More than 70% of ALL computers in the world use Windows XP, I read somewhere it is believed to be higher. That is higher than all other Windows operating systems put together. If you have bought a new PC in the past 4 or 5 years, it most likely had Windows XP installed. Linux is not even a factor, that is why major software companies do not bother developing popular software for Linux. Click the following link and scroll down to the OS statistics: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp ----If you continue to do what you have always done, you will get what you have always gotten.----
21. Re: InternetReadFile crashing
- Posted by Craig Welch <craig at singmail.com> Dec 23, 2005
- 613 views
C Bouzy wrote: >Interesting reasons why some of you still use Win98. In my opinion price >is not a valid reason not to upgrade. The average Windows OS has a life span >of 5-7 years before it is considered obsolete. That equals out to about $25 >a year. That is about 7 cents a day, less than a cup of coffee or a soda. > > Price is not an issue ... I just see no need to upgrade my main computer. I bought a laptop recently, and only XP was offered on it. No problem, but when configuring (online from Dell) I elected to take XP Home, not XP Pro. The system gave me all sorts of reasons why I shouldn't, with dire warning that my network wouldn't work. Which was a crock, I have two servers with Win98 networked via Ethernet, and the Laptop with XP networked with wireless. All connected to the Internet via a shared satellite connexion. To make that work properly, I de-installed Microsoft ICS, and put in a proxy server. >How many products have you bought 5 or 7 years ago that you still use today? > > (Looking around) my monitors, my Palm Pilot, my speakers, my keyboard, my phone, my fax, my desk, my lounge chair, my coffee table (outside window) my car (almost), my motorbikes, my horses. Oh, I just bought a new colour laser printer. The salesman said it wouldn't work with Win98. It does. >If you are coding as a hobby then I guess it does not matter what OS you >are using, but if you are coding applications for the general public to use, >then using the latest tools and technology is very important. One year after >Vista is released MS will no longer support Win98. > > Fair enough. All of my coding is for my own use. Although my computers also support my business, and the applications on them need to be robust. Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Goldmine, MYOB (accounting) etc. I'm not -anti- XP. I just see no compelling reason to upgrade. -- Craig