1. Rob: No reply?
Hi there Rob,
QUOTE:
Hi Rob,
How about 10 dollars off if it's actually *cash* (ie credit card or other,
but *NOT* micro economy dollars for people who have them)?
In other words, a cash payment (minus $10) instead of using the micro
dollars for an upgrade to v2.5 ?
If the micro dollars are used there's no income for RDS but if cash
there's still an income right? How's that sound?
Possibly just for the holidays or possibly anytime?
:UNQUOTE
Take care,
Al
And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!
My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"
2. Re: Rob: No reply?
Al Getz wrote:
> QUOTE:
> Hi Rob,
>
> How about 10 dollars off if it's actually *cash* (ie credit card or other,
> but *NOT* micro economy dollars for people who have them)?
> In other words, a cash payment (minus $10) instead of using the micro
> dollars for an upgrade to v2.5 ?
> If the micro dollars are used there's no income for RDS but if cash
> there's still an income right? How's that sound?
>
> Possibly just for the holidays or possibly anytime?
>
> :UNQUOTE
Sorry, I forgot to answer.
Yes, that might be better financially for me, but I think what I'll
do is issue you a special coupon for $10 plus any
MicroEconomy dollars. So if you have $6.00 in the MicroEconomy system,
you could get a coupon for $16.00 off, i.e. you'd pay only $23.00,
or if it's a Binder upgrade, normally $24, you'd pay $8.00.
If you only have enough MicroEconomy to bring the
price down to say $5.00, I would just send it to you. No need
to use DigiBuy. DigiBuy takes a $3 cut on all transactions.
You could "owe" me the balance in future MicroEconomy.
With just 11 hours to go until I upload the new LW game with
video capture mode, I suggest that everyone review lw.doc and
spend the rest of the day practicing on the existing LW.
You might need to take some time off work or school. 
I don't know if the contest will be over in an hour, or a year.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
3. Re: Rob: No reply?
Robert Craig wrote:
>
> Sorry, I forgot to answer.
>
> Yes, that might be better financially for me, but I think what I'll
> do is issue you a special coupon for $10 plus any
> MicroEconomy dollars. So if you have $6.00 in the MicroEconomy system,
> you could get a coupon for $16.00 off, i.e. you'd pay only $23.00,
> or if it's a Binder upgrade, normally $24, you'd pay $8.00.
>
> If you only have enough MicroEconomy to bring the
> price down to say $5.00, I would just send it to you. No need
> to use DigiBuy. DigiBuy takes a $3 cut on all transactions.
> You could "owe" me the balance in future MicroEconomy.
>
> With just 11 hours to go until I upload the new LW game with
> video capture mode, I suggest that everyone review lw.doc and
> spend the rest of the day practicing on the existing LW.
> You might need to take some time off work or school.
>
> I don't know if the contest will be over in an hour, or a year.
>
Is the coupon good for 25 percent off the other products too? If not, how come?
Regards,
Vincent
4. Re: Rob: No reply?
- Posted by Ricardo M. Forno <rmforno at tutopia.com>
Dec 08, 2005
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Last edited Dec 09, 2005
Hi Rob.
As you sure know, I was out of EUforum for a while. Now, I got a broadband
connection, and I read the messages from the page instead of using POP3.
Now, I see that a LW contest seems to be on the air. Can you tell me
what is it?
Regards.
5. Re: Rob: No reply?
- Posted by Robert Craig <rds at RapidEuphoria.com>
Dec 08, 2005
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Last edited Dec 09, 2005
Vincent wrote:
> Is the coupon good for 25 percent off the other products too? If not, how
> come?
No, the coupon will only be for the Binder product.
There are some minor issues with doing it for all products.
I'm trying to make the contest attractive to existing Euphoria people,
and to new people. So you don't have to program anything to win,
and you won't even have to install Euphoria to win.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
6. Re: Rob: No reply?
- Posted by Robert Craig <rds at RapidEuphoria.com>
Dec 08, 2005
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Last edited Dec 09, 2005
Ricardo M. Forno wrote:
> Hi Rob.
> As you sure know, I was out of EUforum for a while. Now, I got a broadband
> connection, and I read the messages from the page instead of using POP3.
That's good to hear. I'm sure you are much happier using broadband.
> Now, I see that a LW contest seems to be on the air. Can you tell me
> what is it?
There's a write-up on the News page:
http://www.rapideuphoria.com/news.htm
In about 8 1/2 hours, the contest will begin.
You will download a Recent User Contribution by RDS
containing a new version of Language War that
records a movie of your game. If you kill all
50 C/ANSI C/C++ ships, send your .vid file to me.
(I know some people will be asleep at that time,
but this thing might go on for weeks or months.
I have no idea.)
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
7. Re: Rob: No reply?
- Posted by Vincent <darkvincentdude at yahoo.com>
Dec 08, 2005
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Last edited Dec 09, 2005
Robert Craig wrote:
> There are some minor issues with doing it for all products.
I'm sorry, I dont quite understand. Could you explain in greater detail as to
what minor issues could arise? I mean if its money, you could just offer a flat
$10 coupon good for any one of the products. But I guess it should not matter,
since I wont be participating in the contest.
Regards,
Vincent
8. Re: Rob: No reply?
- Posted by Robert Craig <rds at RapidEuphoria.com>
Dec 08, 2005
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Last edited Dec 09, 2005
Vincent wrote:
> Robert Craig wrote:
> > There are some minor issues with doing it for all products.
>
> I'm sorry, I dont quite understand. Could you explain in greater detail as to
> what minor issues could arise? I mean if its money, you could just offer a
> flat
> $10 coupon good for any one of the products.
Most new people will be more interested in the Binder than
in the Translator or Source.
Also, whenever you make up a game or contest, you have to think of all
the ways that someone might cheat, or otherwise subvert the
purpose of the contest. Programmers, by their nature, will always
search for loop-holes, special cases, and "bugs" in any system.
I'm concerned that there might be one "hot-shot"
LW player out there who will quickly win 3 games and submit them
from 3 different e-mail addresses, thereby grabbing three coupons
for himself to use on any product, and killing the fun of other people.
If only the Binder is up for grabs, he will have nothing to
gain by submitting a second time. If he wants to
transfer his coupon to someone else, that's ok with me,
but I will set it up so a given coupon can only be used once.
Of course illegal copying of software is always a problem.
> But I guess it should not matter,
> since I wont be participating in the contest.
You already have the Binder, and you've never won LW at even
the novice level, so I guess you don't have much incentive.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
9. Re: Rob: No reply?
Robert Craig wrote:
> Most new people will be more interested in the Binder than
> in the Translator or Source.
Notice how you said "most"? That was definitely not the case with me. I must of
spent several months playing with the translator before ever learning the
language in any significant detail! In the beginning, I had little or no interest
in Euphoria, I just wanted to translate stuff. It's safe to say that I've done my
fair share of regression testing for it. :P
The translator really facisinated me because:
a) It can speed up my programs upto 5 times. :D
b) I can tweak compiler options for slightly better performance. :D
c) I can make DLLs or SOs. :)
I hope the translator works with the new Borland C++Builder 2006 compiler. If it
doesn't, perhaps you could add support for it in your Borland static library used
by the translator?
> Also, whenever you make up a game or contest, you have to think of all
> the ways that someone might cheat, or otherwise subvert the
> purpose of the contest. Programmers, by their nature, will always
> search for loop-holes, special cases, and "bugs" in any system.
> I'm concerned that there might be one "hot-shot"
> LW player out there who will quickly win 3 games and submit them
> from 3 different e-mail addresses, thereby grabbing three coupons
> for himself to use on any product, and killing the fun of other people.
> If only the Binder is up for grabs, he will have nothing to
> gain by submitting a second time. If he wants to
> transfer his coupon to someone else, that's ok with me,
> but I will set it up so a given coupon can only be used once.
> Of course illegal copying of software is always a problem.
Oh yea, I didn't think of that; though I bet the only "hot-shot" at LW is
yourself.
> You already have the Binder, and you've never won LW at even
> the novice level, so I guess you don't have much incentive.
Yep, though I hardly use it, as I'm sure you've guessed by now. :P
I might try your bound multi-tasking LW to see if I can crash it. With this
said, you must be getting very close to releasing a fast tasking Euphoria 2.5?
Regards,
Vincent
10. Re: Rob: No reply?
Vincent wrote:
>
> Robert Craig wrote:
>
> > Most new people will be more interested in the Binder than
> > in the Translator or Source.
>
> Notice how you said "most"? That was definitely not the case with me. I must
> of spent several months playing with the translator before ever learning the
> language in any significant detail! In the beginning, I had little or no
> interest
> in Euphoria, I just wanted to translate stuff. It's safe to say that I've done
> my fair share of regression testing for it. :P
>
> The translator really facisinated me because:
>
> a) It can speed up my programs upto 5 times. :D
> b) I can tweak compiler options for slightly better performance. :D
> c) I can make DLLs or SOs. :)
>
> I hope the translator works with the new Borland C++Builder 2006 compiler. If
> it doesn't, perhaps you could add support for it in your Borland static
> library
> used by the translator?
(snip)
I completely agree here. I asked for the translator for Christmas last year and
would much rather be able to speed my programs up and make DLLs than just make
bound exes.
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