1. Forum Problems
- Posted by DanM Sep 29, 2010
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Forked from Re: Has Jeremy finally left the buiding?
I notice that on at least one of my computers here, the forum no longer shows the star that indicates new, unread posts in a thread; is that an artifact of the change to another server, or is it maybe some problem I have here?
I messed that up this morning, I believe. The css for that stuff is kind of tricky, and while what I put seems OK, not all browsers like it that way. Also, the way we display the star is something that most browsers seem to be phasing out due to security concerns. Google Chrome, at least, already has.
Matt
I'm using IE8 on this 'puter.
But while I'm at it, I've wondered if the forum couldn't have a new feature whereby clicking on a message thread would auto-jump to the post just after the last post previously read by the reader.
2. Re: Forum Problems
- Posted by DanM Sep 29, 2010
- 1390 views
Forked from Re: Has Jeremy finally left the buiding?
I notice that on at least one of my computers here, the forum no longer shows the star that indicates new, unread posts in a thread; is that an artifact of the change to another server, or is it maybe some problem I have here?
I messed that up this morning, I believe. The css for that stuff is kind of tricky, and while what I put seems OK, not all browsers like it that way. Also, the way we display the star is something that most browsers seem to be phasing out due to security concerns. Google Chrome, at least, already has.
Matt
I'm using IE8 on this 'puter.
But while I'm at it, I've wondered if the forum couldn't have a new feature whereby clicking on a message thread would auto-jump to the post just after the last post previously read by the reader.
This would require a sort of statistical data collection that I believe is not currently happening at openeuphoria.org. Let me explain. Your browser knows where you have been and likely when as well. However, openeuphoria.org likely does not timestamp the last time every visitor visits a page. Or in your a simply case related your question. Just storing the last thing you viewed. I doubt much of any statistical data is stored. So, you want openeuphoria to be a little more like Big Brother and record every time you visit any page so they can sell that information to line their pockets. Oh wait. They wouldn't do that. It would go to better Euphoria. eh, I'll calmly step away from the mic and off the podium now.
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It's likely I'm not understanding, but it doesn't seem to me that any kind of any such "statistical data collection" would in any way be necessary; I would think the (previously) working "star" system could simply be expanded, no?
It already "knows" IF a thread has posts in it that "YOU" haven't yet looked at, so all it would have to add is the ability to "know" WHICH was the LAST post in such a thread which WAS read. Then it would/could jump to the NEXT post after that in that thread when you click on the thread title.
So a relevant question might be: exactly HOW does the (previously) working "star" system work?
Dan M.
3. Re: Forum Problems
- Posted by mattlewis (admin) Sep 29, 2010
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It's likely I'm not understanding, but it doesn't seem to me that any kind of any such "statistical data collection" would in any way be necessary; I would think the (previously) working "star" system could simply be expanded, no?
It already "knows" IF a thread has posts in it that "YOU" haven't yet looked at, so all it would have to add is the ability to "know" WHICH was the LAST post in such a thread which WAS read. Then it would/could jump to the NEXT post after that in that thread when you click on the thread title.
So a relevant question might be: exactly HOW does the (previously) working "star" system work?
It's actually done by your browser. The links have styling that puts an image there (the star) if the link isn't in your history, and leaves it off if the link is in your history. This sort of thing can allow a webpage to know if you've been to certain links or not.
Suppose that instead of a generic image, the website encoded the image url so that it knew what the link was. Then, the website could effectively look into your browsing history. On this forum, it was just used as an easy way to show unread posts. All of the links are styled to be colored orange.
Browser makers are treating this ability as a breach of privacy, and making it so that the available styling doesn't do anything that the server would notice. To get around this, we'd have to add a whole lot of tracking to the euweb code and database, which probably isn't going to happen.
I've reverted the stylesheet, so the stars should be back.
Matt
4. Re: Forum Problems
- Posted by DanM Sep 29, 2010
- 1257 views
Thank you, Matt, for getting the stars back, and for explaining that how they work precludes expanding them to jump to next unread post in a thread.
Dan
