1. euWeb throwing errors?

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JansekVillaria said...

At the same time I see that jeremy has just updated EuWeb again so perhaps things will get better (when he works out the errors its currently throwing for me) :)

What errors is it throwing for you?

Jeremy

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jeremy said...

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JansekVillaria said...

At the same time I see that jeremy has just updated EuWeb again so perhaps things will get better (when he works out the errors its currently throwing for me) :)

What errors is it throwing for you?

Jeremy

Two seconds ago:

[15:09] <katsmeow-afk> Internal Server Error
[15:09] <katsmeow-afk> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[15:09] <katsmeow-afk> Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@openeuphoria.org and inform them

useless

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useless said...

Two seconds ago:

[15:09] <katsmeow-afk> Internal Server Error
[15:09] <katsmeow-afk> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[15:09] <katsmeow-afk> Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@openeuphoria.org and inform them

I was just doing a deploy. Sometimes, when deploying, fileabc may be partially deployed, or maybe file1 deploys before file2 which depends on the new file1. I would expect (although still a bummer when it happens) if you hit the server at the exact moment I'm deploying, then some crazy things can happen. Deploying takes about 20 seconds. Unfortunately, with the latest RSS deploy, I had to do it a few times as the feed validator would come up with different errors when given the full set of data thrown at it from the forum vs. the limited data set I have on my dev box.

Jeremy

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jeremy said...
useless said...

Two seconds ago:

[15:09] <katsmeow-afk> Internal Server Error
[15:09] <katsmeow-afk> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[15:09] <katsmeow-afk> Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@openeuphoria.org and inform them

I was just doing a deploy. Sometimes, when deploying, fileabc may be partially deployed, or maybe file1 deploys before file2 which depends on the new file1. I would expect (although still a bummer when it happens) if you hit the server at the exact moment I'm deploying, then some crazy things can happen. Deploying takes about 20 seconds. Unfortunately, with the latest RSS deploy, I had to do it a few times as the feed validator would come up with different errors when given the full set of data thrown at it from the forum vs. the limited data set I have on my dev box.

Jeremy

I'd have thought the proper way to do this was

1) upload everything with different names, then change the filenames. Renaming is faster than uploading.

2) run the db index using newnames, then rename it as needed. Renaming is faster than running massive db updates.

But what the heck do i know, eh?

useless

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useless said...

I'd have thought the proper way to do this was

1) upload everything with different names, then change the filenames. Renaming is faster than uploading.

2) run the db index using newnames, then rename it as needed. Renaming is faster than running massive db updates.

But what the heck do i know, eh?

That's a good process but for no more that I deploy, it really doesn't cause an issue. There are 225 files (just did a wc on the ls -1R. I could deploy into a different directory, but then there are run time files that exist only on the production box, created during sessions, that I would have to copy back in. It's just more hassle than it's worth.

Jeremy

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6. Re: euWeb throwing errors?

jeremy said...
useless said...

I'd have thought the proper way to do this was

1) upload everything with different names, then change the filenames. Renaming is faster than uploading.

2) run the db index using newnames, then rename it as needed. Renaming is faster than running massive db updates.

But what the heck do i know, eh?

That's a good process but for no more that I deploy, it really doesn't cause an issue. There are 225 files (just did a wc on the ls -1R. I could deploy into a different directory, but then there are run time files that exist only on the production box, created during sessions, that I would have to copy back in. It's just more hassle than it's worth.

Jeremy

Yeas, automating that so threads like this don't get started would be a hassle.

useless

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useless said...

Yeas, automating that so threads like this don't get started would be a hassle.

Yup.

Jeremy

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8. Re: euWeb throwing errors?

useless said...
jeremy said...
useless said...

Two seconds ago:

[15:09] <katsmeow-afk> Internal Server Error
[15:09] <katsmeow-afk> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[15:09] <katsmeow-afk> Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@openeuphoria.org and inform them

I was just doing a deploy. Sometimes, when deploying, fileabc may be partially deployed, or maybe file1 deploys before file2 which depends on the new file1. I would expect (although still a bummer when it happens) if you hit the server at the exact moment I'm deploying, then some crazy things can happen. Deploying takes about 20 seconds. Unfortunately, with the latest RSS deploy, I had to do it a few times as the feed validator would come up with different errors when given the full set of data thrown at it from the forum vs. the limited data set I have on my dev box.

Jeremy

I'd have thought the proper way to do this was

1) upload everything with different names, then change the filenames. Renaming is faster than uploading.

2) run the db index using newnames, then rename it as needed. Renaming is faster than running massive db updates.

But what the heck do i know, eh?

useless

I just got the following error for a duration of about 3 or more minutes; maybe Kat's right? Or was this a different problem?

12:11 pst to ~ 12:14 pst
<begin quote>
Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@openeuphoria.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. <end quote>

Dan

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9. Re: euWeb throwing errors?

DanM said...

I just got the following error for a duration of about 3 or more minutes; maybe Kat's right? Or was this a different problem?

12:11 pst to ~ 12:14 pst

Internal Server Error 
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. 
 
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@openeuphoria.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. 
 
More information about this error may be available in the server error log. 
 
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. 

Dan, was this happening on just one URL or the entire site? If just one URL, do you remember which URL it was? If the entire site, I have tracked down errors like that to not even being our fault. We are on shared hosting and when the server load gets high because someone's process is running rampid, the server ceases to allow any new processes to be launched, i.e. our process is denied the right to even run. The only thing we can do to fix that is to move servers to something more sensible and better balanced, but that's not a matter of just a 5 second change getlost

Jeremy

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10. Re: euWeb throwing errors?

jeremy said...

Dan, was this happening on just one URL or the entire site? If just one URL, do you remember which URL it was? If the entire site, I have tracked down errors like that to not even being our fault. We are on shared hosting and when the server load gets high because someone's process is running rampid, the server ceases to allow any new processes to be launched, i.e. our process is denied the right to even run. The only thing we can do to fix that is to move servers to something more sensible and better balanced, but that's not a matter of just a 5 second change getlost

Jeremy

Well, I'm not sure; I know every POST I tried to look at brought up the same error, but I don't think I looked anywhere else on the site at that time.

Tonight, at about 12:14 pst, I again got the same error on trying to read a post, after having been able to read all before that, then the same error with all other posts I then tried, but then when I tried the other buttons at the top of the forum page, I could get them ok, and when I finished trying all of those, I could then read POSTS ok, again.

So the only thing I notice as a recurrent condition that might relate to the errors is the TIME of occurance, but I don't know what that might mean.

Dan

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