1. euphoria for non-it trained users
- Posted by forkinpm Nov 08, 2008
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Hallo! I am trying to put together a platform for use by me and other end-users, which has little or no dependency on IT-Support Skills. I today use ms-win-xp-home. Anyone who is an euphoria skilled user, who has dealt with functions such as fuzzy-logic desktop searches, or simple english to german translation tools, or integrating with open source products, I would like to hear from. Regards, forkinpm.
2. Re: euphoria for non-it trained users
- Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Nov 08, 2008
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Hallo! I am trying to put together a platform for use by me and other end-users, which has little or no dependency on IT-Support Skills. I today use ms-win-xp-home.
A platform to do what?
Anyone who is an euphoria skilled user, who has dealt with functions such as fuzzy-logic desktop searches, or simple english to german translation tools, or integrating with open source products, I would like to hear from.
- What is a fuzzy-logic desktop search?
- Searching for what?
- There is nothing simple about translating from one language to another.
- Though English to German might be one of the easier ones.
- integrating what with open-source products?
- Have you some examples of the sort of thing you'd like to achieve?
3. Re: euphoria for non-it trained users
- Posted by m_sabal Nov 08, 2008
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Euphoria is a programming language. Programming requires skill, no matter what language you use. Computers are machines - sometimes they break. When they break, they require support. New platforms require training. Training is part of support.
As Derek mentioned, you need to be far more clear about what your needs are, and we can do our best for help. Based on the scant information you provided, I don't think you are looking for a programming language. But we're a helpful bunch, and will do our best to point you in the right direction once we know what direction you're looking for.
4. Re: euphoria for non-it trained users
- Posted by irv Nov 08, 2008
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There are a lot of skilled users here, some have expertise in one or more of the things you mentioned. Perhaps if you try posing an actual question, for example: "How can I ..." or "Is it possible to ..." then you might get some useful responses.
5. Re: euphoria for non-it trained users
- Posted by DanM Nov 08, 2008
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Hallo! I am trying to put together a platform for use by me and other end-users,
What do you mean by "platform"?
I ask because I have a suspicion that you might instead mean an application, ie, a computer program intended to do some specific thing for end users.
Here's a definition I found:
"Platform: The underlying hardware or software for a system. For example, the platform might be an Intel 80486 processor running DOS Version 6.0. The platform could also be UNIX machines on an Ethernet network. The platform defines a standard around which a system can be developed. Once the platform has been defined, software developers can produce appropriate software and managers can purchase appropriate hardware and applications. The term is often used as a synonym of operating system."
I today use ms-win-xp-home.
Which would be an example of a platform.
Anyone who is an euphoria skilled user, who has dealt with functions such as fuzzy-logic desktop searches,
After googling "fuzzy logic" & finding out that it is multi-value, rather than two-value, logic, it occurs to me to wonder:
- is Google based on fuzzy logic? (like when it might ask "did you mean...")
- was A.E. van Vogt's "Null A" a use of an earlier expression of fuzzy logic?
just idle wonderings 
Dan
6. Re: euphoria for non-it trained users
- Posted by just_me Nov 08, 2008
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I guess poster is looking for a Windows desktop application capable to make fuzzy searches/translations. Nothing trivial, by the way.
JG
7. Re: euphoria for non-it trained users
- Posted by scooby Nov 08, 2008
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After googling "fuzzy logic" & finding out that it is multi-value, rather than two-value, logic, it occurs to me to wonder:
- is Google based on fuzzy logic? (like when it might ask "did you mean...")
- was A.E. van Vogt's "Null A" a use of an earlier expression of fuzzy logic?
just idle wonderings
Dan
Fuzzy logic is not about having multiple possibilities. It's about the granularity of said possibilities. Consider fuzzy logic as a way to score the wieght of a result and classify it into a generalization.
- FF0000 is red. Inversely, #110000 is also 'a little bit red'. Both results are correct, depending on what the question is.
If you ask what rgb value is red, the fuzzy logic could return #FF0000 (red) and #110000 (a little red). If you ask which is the most red, then it can make a definitive answer of #FF0000
Note that while you can classify the various levels of accuracy, in fuzzy logic the classifications are not exclusive of eachother.
Eg. < 1% = not < 19% = little bit < 39% = kind of < 59% = sort of < 79% = alot < 99% = mostly
- FF0000 can fall into all of those classifications, except 'not'
- 110000 only falls into the 'little bit' class
Google uses bayesian filtering. It builds heuristics of search terms in relation to the results that the searchers ultimately choose. Eg. if every person that searches for microsort, ends up going to msn.com, google can deduce that you probably mean microsoft. not microsort.
scooby
