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2. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by ne1uno Aug 15, 2008
• 1454 views

I am using an old version of html help workshop, I see no way to turn on bookmarks, favorites or search topic. skimming a few tutorials, they make no mention of such things.

you can find the first similar item in the index tab and I put a link to the "table of contents" on the top of each page.

I don't know why it doesn't display the found item automatically when it is the only one, as some other chm do. you have to hit enter or hit the display button near the bottom.
I hope I can find a better help generator soon.

4. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 17, 2008
• 1436 views

New docs are online and with it is html.zip. I will make a link on the site this week so it's more accessable. For now, the link is:

http://openeuphoria.org/docs/html.zip

Jeremy

6. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by euphoric (admin) Aug 17, 2008
• 1639 views

Actually, none of the links work for me.

8. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by twbeaty Aug 17, 2008
• 1402 views

Woo-hoo! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

- Travis.

10. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by jeremy (admin) Aug 17, 2008
• 1423 views
• Last edited Aug 18, 2008

Sorry about the doc mix up this morning. I am home now and corrected docs are uploaded.

Jeremy

12. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by jcmarsh Aug 20, 2008
• 1411 views

To: ne1uno

Since it looks like you are using HTML Help Workshop already, and the search function is not currently working, here's how to enable it.

How to enable search in chm:

In "HTML Help Workshop", To enable full-text search:
1. Open a project (.hhp) file, and then click Change Project Options.
2. Click the Compiler tab, and select the Compile full-text search information check box.

14. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by jcmarsh Aug 20, 2008
• 1393 views
• Last edited Aug 21, 2008

I admire your work on the chm Help file for Euphoria 4.0 pre alpha, and I have been looking at it for the last two days. I got the updated version today and was able to decompile and then recompile it using different compiler options. The version I made worked so well I decided to post it on the Archive. It's quite a bit larger than your compiled version, but it includes Search and Favorites, which yours did not at the time of my writing. I developed and tested it on Windows Vista. It should work on all other Windows OSes because the format is the same.

I called it "Enhanced UnOfficial Euphoria version 4 pre alpha chm Help file" after your project.
The name of the file is "jceu4uo.zip" and contains the project file "jceu400.hhp" which can be opened by "HTML Help Workshop" and compiled if all of the files it includes are in the same directory as the project file.

Maybe if you can get it to work on your computer, you can combine the two projects.

16. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by jcmarsh Aug 20, 2008
• 1417 views
• Last edited Aug 21, 2008

Correction: http://sites.google.com/site/runintrack/uploads

18. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by ne1uno Aug 20, 2008
• 1384 views
• Last edited Aug 21, 2008

looks pretty good, I will have to generate the html w/o the &(nbsp); in the headers for next time, it messes with the search topics. I see no real difference in the hhp file, so it must be a newer version of htmlhelp dll's or htmlhtml workshop.
careful, next thing you know you will be beta testing 4.0

20. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by ne1uno Aug 21, 2008
• 1458 views

I regenerated all the html to remove nbsp and added section headers for titles on each page. this improves the look of search and favorites titles. the htmlhelp from msdn was the same 1.3 version I had. I think you need a newer operating system before they let you download the 1.4 version. but, with the hhp file you included I was able to copy the [WINDOWS] section and enable search and favorites! I added a stp file with a few simple words to limit the size a little.

still to do, why is the htmlhelp generated toc so bad? maybe with the newer version and removal of nbsp it will work better for you? and no bookmarks tab yet.

temp upload new version I updated my version on the archive. have a look.

22. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by jcmarsh Aug 21, 2008
• 1356 views

Use the following to display toc if you don't know how to already:

Main="Euphoria 4.0","toc.hhc","Index.hhk","eu400_0002.html","eu400_0001.html",,,,,0x63420,,0x387e,,,,,,3,,0 

As for links in the toc, it directs you to the page not the section. They may have to be set manually to jump to the right section.

PS. The font yours generates doesn't read that well on my computer. I don't know which font mine uses, I set it to blank.

24. Re: ver 4.0 docs chm links to sections now work - don't know why

• Posted by jcmarsh Aug 28, 2008
• 1329 views

Somehow I got the exact section to work. It's not pretty, just a working copy. I used the latest html.zip posted by Jeremy.

[OPTIONS] 
Binary TOC=Yes 
Compatibility=1.1 or later 
Compiled file=scratch.chm 
Default Window=main 
Default topic=eu400_0001.html 
Display compile progress=No 
Enhanced decompilation=Yes 
Flat=Yes 
Full-text search=Yes 
Language=0x409 English (United States) 
 
[WINDOWS] 
main="PUT THE TITLE HERE",,,"eu400_0001.html","eu400_0001.html","Jump1.html","Jump1","Jump2.html","Jump2",0x23520,,0xc387e,,,,,,,,0 
 
 
[FILES] 
eu400_0001.html 
 
[INFOTYPES] 
 
 

ne1uno, you can look at the file to try out the links. Here's the link: http://sites.google.com/site/runintrack/uploads/eu4chm/test.zip?attredirects=0

Maybe you could help me out to figure out what is different.

26. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by jcmarsh Aug 28, 2008
• 1361 views

ne1uno:

I created another test file, this one splits the topics into subtopics, about 3000 of them. I don't think we should go this way with the official chm, but at least the TOC tab works properly following this model. It's a temporary fix.

http://sites.google.com/site/runintrack/uploads/eu4chm/test.zip?attredirects=0

28. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by jcmarsh Aug 29, 2008
• 1340 views

I made a program to automatically generate the index source toc.hhc today. It beats fixing the links by hand. Full links can be scanned from the html files created by eudoc. Currently only uses the first file generated by the eudoc package. Source included in the zip:

http://sites.google.com/site/runintrack/uploads/eu4chm/test.zip?attredirects=0

Are you creating the index.hhk file manually right now or having HTML Help Workshop generate it?

30. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by ne1uno Aug 29, 2008
• 1269 views

thanks, I had been editing nbsp in a few places in creolehtml. the change from [123] to _123_ in the name= links, alas, does not make the autogenerated toc in htmlhelp any better. but, the links do look less busy in the browser status bar when viewing the html version of the docs.

in the 0013.html
links after "2.5.7.3 for statement" are unresolved

 exit statement  
 break statement  
 continue statement  
 retry statement  
 "2.5.9 Labelled headers" too  

somewhere in the past 10 svn revisions.

probably unrelated also in refman_2.txt

loop do label "GONEXT" 
 should be 
loop label "GONEXT" do 

32. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by DerekParnell (admin) Aug 29, 2008
• 1289 views
• Last edited Aug 30, 2008

What's the problem? Something I can do in creole?

 exit statement  
 break statement  
 continue statement  
 retry statement  
 "2.5.9 Labelled headers" too  

I'm not getting this. All these are resolved on my system.

loop do label "GONEXT" 
 should be 
loop label "GONEXT" do 

Ok, that I can fix.

34. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by jcmarsh Aug 30, 2008
• 1293 views

To ne1uno and DerekParnell:

I haven't changed the eudoc system on my computer, just translated it to C and compiled it to use it. Honestly I don't worry about how it works at this point. I'm glad that you guys are developing it. I'm just modifying the output in order to get a decent chm file.

Here's some things I did:

Changed head.html title tag to this to give each page a separate title:

<title>{chaptext}</title> 

I'm working on a program written in Euphoria to generate the needed toc.hhc CHM Table of Contents file and Index.hhk Index file used by MS HTML Help Workshop from the HTML files created by eudoc.ex and creolehtml.ex

I hope that you can use it (once it is finished) as part of your "post processing" process in making the CHM documentation file.

36. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by jcmarsh Aug 31, 2008
• 1267 views

 exit statement  
 break statement  
 continue statement  
 retry statement  
 "2.5.9 Labelled headers" too  

loop do label "GONEXT" 
 should be 
loop label "GONEXT" do 

Can you please add this change to your next update of creole:

creolehtml.ex line 276 of 836

kan:setValue(lData, "thistext", lThisText) -- jcmarsh 

This will add the ability to reference the text name of the current page from the template files. It helps to have the current page name in the title HTML tag when compiling as a CHM. I can then add this to my template:

<title>{thistext=*:}{thistext}{:thistext=:}{title}{:thistext}</title> 

And always have a unique title.

On another note, I have created an alpha version of htm2chm.ew which will generate toc.hhc and Index.hhk from the creolehtml.ex output. I will post it to my website. It will be part of the chm_source.zip:

http://sites.google.com/site/runintrack/uploads/eu4chm

Oh, and by the way, great work for putting together the eudocs and creole!

38. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by jcmarsh Sep 01, 2008
• 1258 views

Released a major revision of my CHM file. updated dev to svn1108. updated Windows eubin version (svn1067). Updates will now be probably weekly.

See also ne1's Unofficial Help file for Euphoria 4.0 pre-alpha. Not sure which one is better, but I think mine is easier to maintain.

http://sites.google.com/site/runintrack/uploads/eu4chm

I'm really looking forward to the release of 4.0 - I've been patiently waiting for the next update for maybe a year now. Now there is something that I can possibly do to help the project by helping with the CHM help file. I know from experience that you can't learn a programming language if you can't learn it from its bundled documentation. I think Euphoria's documentation is very well organized and easy to understand. Thank you development team for all your hard work!

40. Re: ver 4.0 docs

• Posted by jcmarsh Sep 01, 2008
• 1234 views

I think as the documentation improves and as eudoc and creole get better many of the unresolved links will go away. See my post titled: "Need help fixing eudoc creole". I have not tried to link it to an editor because I don't know how to. I don't use v4.0 in my code because I haven't learned it yet. I'm mainly a tester not a developer. I created the generate TOC and generate Index programs to accelerate the creation/testing phase of the CHM project. It seemed easy enough to do and gave me better results than my other attempts so that is what I did. I was concerned by your previous post:

I just didn't want you to despair that the project would never be finished. I saw the benefit of having two CHM projects going concurrently because neither one has all the features of the other and each one can learn from the other's experience. Neither one will be perfect until all of the tools used to create them are out of alpha stages.