RE: Eu's poor design
eugtk at yahoo.com wrote:
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> --- Andreas Rumpf <pfropfen at gmx.net> wrote:
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> > Lets face it, at its current state, Euphoria is
> > rather useless for
> > programming real applications, for several reasons:
>
> Clearly, it's been useless for you. I don't see your
> name in
> a search of the user-contributions page. There are
> lots
> of others there, however.
>
> Just one example: take a look at Judith's IDE. That,
> with the Win32Lib, is easier to use, and more stable,
> than my $100 copy of Delphi. I'd say that Delphi is
> a real application - so I guess Judith's is also.
Though I don't know Judith's IDE, I doubt it is better than Delphi.
My Delphi works just fine (it is stable).
>
> > It lacks:
> > - Call by reference (the most important feature I
> > want to add!):
>
> Last time this subject came up, I took a look (with
> grep) thru the million or so lines of code I have
> written in the past 20 years - in only half a dozen
> places have I used call-by-reference. And in those,
> only one would I call "essential" - meaning that
> without it, the code would have been really ugly.
I don't believe you. That would mean you have written
millions of lines in Eu (because all the other languages
have it). I doubt it.
> Would I like to have cbr? Sure.
> Is it essential? No way.
Of course it is. Why do the other languages have it?
> It ranks just above goto on my wish list (sorry, Kat)
I agree that goto is usefull...
> As for case sensitivity -
> What you learned in QBasic doesn't apply to the real
> world. (Hint: there's a reason why those 'other'
> languages are also case sensitive.)
I don't know QBasic very well. I can program in C, Pascal, Ada,
Euphoria, Java and in ML. (I study computer science.) I still prefer
case insensitive languages. The world doesn't run out of identifiers.
> Besides, anyone who can't remember how he spelled a
> variable is going to find the more complex programming
> tasks even more frustrating.
I know how I write my variables! But I don't know how YOU (if you wrote
a library for me to use) wrote them!
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