Re: Moving on...
Ray Smith wrote:
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> An "EU Community" has very little hope of developing past the current
> mailing list.
> People who decide to do major contributions to projects and then give
> it all away will almost always decide to do it on 100% open source
> projects.
Not inevitable.
> Why would anyone put huge amounts of effort into helping develop Eu
> furthur (i.e. by writing doco, libraries, apps, etc) when the core is
> closed and is only being "very slowly" developed and 100% controlled
> by 1 person???
Maybe because s/he likes the language so much? I only can guess. There
_are_ people who actually do major contributions. I'm sure they can say,
why they do so. If I had the capability, I surely also would do so.
> ok a few people contribute (I was one of them) but compared to other
> languages very few.
There is a considerable amout of contributions in the RDS archive.
> Closed source products (i.e. Euphoria, Microsoft products etc) are
> made by people who want to make money.
Making money is not evil by itself.
(Send 20$ for more info. 
SCNR)
> Open Source products (i.e. Perl, Python, Ruby) are made by people who
> want to make great products.
Generally speaking: What do you think, how many people I have seen in my
life, who _wanted_ to make good things. Please believe me, wanting to
make good things, is completely different from _actually doing_ good
things ...
> That's why these open source languages can now compete with the best
> closed source languages that the biggest companies (with huge
> amounts) of money develop.
Certainly there are some good open source languages, but I don't think
any open source language is good, just _because_ it's open source.
If we want to understand, what prerequisites are necessary to develop a
good programming language, we must go a bit more in detail I believe.
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> The only thing that will make Euphoria more popular is for it to
> become open source.
I disagree. For instance, more advertising would also make Euphoria
more popular. This "What will make Euphoria more popular?" discussion
arises here from time to time. Interestingly, I've never seen, that Rob
participates in this discussion. Maybe this isn't an issue for him at
all?
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> Talented people, I mean really talented people (I'm by no means
> including myself!!!) just aren't going to jump into the Euphoria
> community and write high class libs utils doco etc. It's just not
> going to happen.
Hmm?? I _do_ see some talented people in this community, actually doing
great contributions.
> All of these poeple are over using Perl, Python and
> Ruby etc having a great time. Open Source is like a light that
> flicks on in your head, when it turns on you just can't imagine why
> you didn't understand it before, or why others can't see what you see!
That's actually a good description of how I feel with Euphoria.
> If Euphoria is doing everything you want to it do now, then great,
> if you'd like it to other things and you yourself aren't able to, or
> not willing to do it, then don't hold your breath!
That looks like a real judgement of Solomon.
> Ray Smith
> http://rays-web.com
Best regards,
Juergen
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