RE: fixed windows
gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
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> And you are saying since you don't need the option, i should be forced
> to do
> without?
> So again, you don't need it, so i can't have it.
> By your previous tone, i suspect that means you are against them. So
> far,
> you are against everything i suggest but threads. How unexpected.
> I'm sure you won't like it, and will vote to keep it from me in Eu.
> Golly, really? Are you the only one who matters then? If Robc includes
> goto,
> you think throngs of mad programmers will descent on you next fullmoon
> and
> force you to re-write all your code with goto?
Come on Kat, you behave like a little kid that doesn't get
her way of doing things. As I said in several posts before,
I don't mind if certain things would be implemented in Eu, as
long as it won't loose it's appeal to me. If it does, I'll simply
move on to another language. I've done that many times over the
last 22 years.
The point is that I DON'T diminish the actual quality of the
language as a usable development platform, just because there
are a few things not there yet. With all the languages that I
have used I was always waiting for something that I wanted
but it never stopped me from developing applications with them.
When I couldn't live any longer with certain shortcommings then
I moved to another platform. But I never said that the language
I left behind was no good at all, it was just not good for me.
> Yes, stop thinking of the program and it's flow, and engineer a
> workaround
> that the programming language will allow.
I'll repeat my point here: goto is not needed in a language 
Maybe it helps to understand my pov when you know that I got
my programming education based on Pascal.
> And you think Eu is written in Euphoria?
I don't know with Eu, but many languages are indeed started
as a small sub-set interpreter and then further developed in
the actual language itself. The Python interpreter is largely
written in Python and most Java pre-compilers are indeed written
in..... yep, Java. This is actually where the term "bootstrapping"
comes from.
It's very well possible that Eu was developed in the same way.
> It's already apparent he is out of time, whether i say anything or not.
So how did he manage to release the last update then ?
> Mirc is hardly restricted to "a very (VERY) specific application area*.
> Just
> because it has one screen format for irc does not mean it cannot just as
>
> easily handle other tasks. What you are saying is like saying feet are
> for
> walking with, and if you have no feet, you cannot move at all. Or feet
> should
> not be used to play soccer with. Or hair should be worn the way you say,
>
> and worn any other way is confusing.
I really don't see my company developing enterprise solutions
with mIRC for our clients, but I can use Euphoria, Python,
Erlang, Modula, Pascal, Oberon, etc. fine for that.
These are all multi-purpose languages, mIRC is most certainly not.
Hans Peter Willems
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