RE: win32 and win98
I had these problems quite a bit under WinME. I never use any IDE and
run all the programs directly. Although the problems most frequently
occur during development -- running the program over & over, possibly
crashing, etc, it still happens sometimes when I was just using the
fully-debugged version and no crash occurs. They will occur even when
using a translated version of the program (.exe). If I'm not mistaken,
I've seen the problems start to occur (big fonts, etc.) while the
program is STILL running. My biggest offender was a program that just
ran perpetually and updated a grid of info (with EuGrid) from the
internet every few seconds. Often it would only affect an open folder,
and you could just close it and open it again. Other times it made the
entire start menu into a total mess. I've never had any problem like
that except when working with win32lib. The .59x versions seemed
better-behaved that the .57x, though....
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonas Temple" <jtemple at yhti.net>
> To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:34 PM
> Subject: RE: win32 and win98
>
>
> > George,
> >
> > When you mentioned that MS software is also getting hosed up, that made
> > me think, and maybe you've been asked this question before in relation
> > to this problem:
> >
> > - What version of IE do you have installed on your Win98 machine? I
> > remember having similar issues (although it's been a while) on Win98 and
> > upgraded my IE and they went away. I'm also using Win32lib 59.1 on a
> > Win98 machine and have not run into any problems. I'm using IE version
> > 5.50.
> > - If you're on a recent version of IE and you still have the problems
> > then it could be that some other piece of software installed an older
> > version of one of the system .dlls. If all else fails...reinstall Win98
> > and then try your EU programs before you put anything else on.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Jonas
> > George Walters wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > The programs are mostly launched from Medit (the one written in EU). I'm
> > > not
> > > using the IDE of Judith's. The programs are somewhat large, about 20
> > > pages
> > > w/o includes. I can't reproduce it repeatedly. I'm working all day and I
> > > notice it about 3 to 4 times and then only when I check email or do
> > > something different do I notice the corruption. Express flat tool bar
> > > can
> > > get dorked as well as MS start > programs. etc. MS explorer has also had
> > > it's tool bar messed up. I will also say that I worked 3 days solid on
> > > an XP
> > > laptop w/o a single incident using the identical programs and
> > > development
> > > tools..... the apps are crashing and quite frequently as I write and
> > > debug.
> > > If you want one of these programs I'll try to package it up and send it
> > > with
> > > data and includes....let me know..
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > george
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Derek Parnell" <ddparnell at bigpond.com>
> > > To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:07 PM
> > > Subject: Re: win32 and win98
> > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "George Walters" <gwalters at sc.rr.com>
> > > > To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:32 AM
> > > > Subject: win32 and win98
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I continue to have my desktop and other windows displays (i.e.
> express,
> > > > > explorer) being corrupted while developing programs using win32 59.1
> and
> > > EU
> > > > > 2.3. It's a known problem and Derek hasn't been able to fix it
> because
> > > he
> > > > > doesen't know what's causing it and can't reproduce it. I have to
> reboot
> > > to
> > > > > fix it about 3 times a day. The problem doesen't corrupt any thing
> > > > > seriously. A reboot has always returned things to normal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anybody else seen this that could give Derek, etal. a hint on where
> to
> > > look?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Does this happen with apps NOT written with the IDE? Does it happen
> only
> > > when you launch apps from the IDE? Does it happen when apps crash but
> > > not
> > > when they complete normally?
> > > >
> > > > I ask these questions because this is my experience so far.
> > > >
> > > > Win32lib apps that I run that finish normally and are not launched
> from
> > > the IDE seem to be fine. I'd love an example code that shows otherwise.
> > > Its
> > > too hard to debug without being able to easily reproduce the problem.
> > > >
> > > > My gut feel is that when a program crashes, sometimes some system-used
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