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Re: {OT} Interesting view on Windows/Linux+Wine

• Posted by Jason Gade <jaygade at yahoo.com> Mar 08, 2006
• 681 views

Vincent wrote:
> 
> Jason Gade wrote:
> 
> > With many distros I've used, including Ubuntu, you can do all of these same
> > tasks with the GUI. Sometimes it is more straightforward to use the
> > command-line,
> > though.
> 
> There is alot I can do with the GUI, but also alot I cannot. At least it seems
> that way with Ubuntu. PC-BSD seemed to be easier to get a grip on.
> 
> I have to use "sudo" constantly, even if I make a Gnome root account. I cannot
> change any file permissions in Nautilus without first doing "gksudo nautilus",
> or using "sudo chmod -attr file/dir". I cannot seem to use WINE without typing
> "wine" in the terminal, etc. All of my system setup was done using the
> terminal.
> 
> Perhaps this is different in SUSE with YaST or in newcomer distrobutions like
> Xandros, PC Linux, Linspire. But with Ubuntu you will meet Mr. X termimal
> right
> away.
> 
> I like it this way though... Ubuntu is good because it requires newbies to
> learn
> the terminal like any normal Linux user would but not so much to scare them
> away (like Gentoo maybe). Ubuntu also comes with a disabled root account by
> default, which is a pretty clever idea I think.

There are some things you should need sudo for, but for changing the permissions
of *your own* files and folders, you should be able to do that without root
permissions. I think most Linux file managers support that.

In Linux there are a lot of things you need root permissions for, but there are
a lot that you don't.

> > Remember, there are some things in Windows that you can only do from the
> > command-line
> > as well. It's just that they aren't common enough for most users to do.
> 
> But it really isn't the same. Most of the DOS command line is used for well
> DOS related stuff. The X terminal is much more powerful and has built in
> scripting
> language called BASH. Though you can get a more powerful DOS console called
> 4NT.
> 
> Regards,
> Vincent

I'm not talking about regular DOS stuff. I'm talking about the 'net' command and
other system administration stuff. Maybe some of it is exposed in MMC but I don't
remember which. Stuff like setting the 'guest' user password for increased
security on your home network.

There are some Windows 2000/XP specific commands that I believe are command-line
only and are not exposed through the GUI. That is my point. They are just not
very common for average users.

--
"Any programming problem can be solved by adding a level of indirection."
--anonymous
"Any performance problem can be solved by removing a level of indirection."
--M. Haertel
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil in programming."
--C.A.R. Hoare
j.