Re: DOS Window Manager

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Jesus wrote:

> But, do you think is worth to spend time designing a GUI?

If you mean, is there any demand for a DOS version of Win32Lib? No, not =
really.=20

Realistically, anyone who really wants a GUI would be running Win32 in =
some form or another. I ran Win95 on my 386SX with only 8 meg of memory, =
and it seemed to work for most applications.

Even if there was a full DOS GUI toolkit available, I think most =
Euphoria programmers seem to prefer to write everything from scratch. =
For example, Jiri has a very nice font and control library, but I =
haven't seen a lot of development using those tools. For that matter, I =
haven't much use of the TextGUI toolkit, although I'll readily admit =
that documentation for that is lacking.

If you mean, is it worth the time to write a batch of GUI controls from =
scratch, I should warn people that the DOS emulation of the controls =
will be spartan - more along the lines of my Dialog toolkit than =
TextGUI. If people really want better text controls than the ones I =
supply, there will be sufficient documentation for anyone to go in and =
code a better control.

> Why not to concentrate in a portable API=20
> instead, and use one of those already available?

I've actually modelled a lot of the ideas from existing portable API's. =
I've taken a quick look at the Tk source code, browsed the Zinc library, =
scanned through wxWindows... Plus, I'm trying to incorporate what little =
I know about the Mac, Win32 and X Windows APIs.

> who is caring about DOS nowadays?

Most Euphoria programmers, I suspect. Or they never would have started =
using Euphoria in the first place. But I'll also guess that most of them =
don't want a GUI toolkit, although there has been some positive feedback =
to porting Win32Lib to DOS.

> I'd would rather spend time in improving Tk (or CDE, etc).

If Robert elects to include a cross-platform livrary such as Tk to into =
Euphoria, I certainly won't continue working on this.

I haven't seen CDE, so I can't comment on it. I no longer sure if Tk =
would make a good graft onto Euphoria - I've yet to see a "pure" version =
of it (i.e.: not linked to Tcl).

> On the other side, writing a GUI from scratch is to be a real learning =
experience...

I seem to be making a habit of this, don't I? TextGUI, Dialog, =
Win32Lib... Have I ever written an actual *program* in Euphoria? I guess =
EE counts.

> Whatever you obtain, we'll be here to try it...

Thanks. I'm sure that will come back to haunt you. smile

-- David Cuny

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