Re: Let me try once more

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At 05:21 PM 28/01/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Graeme,
>
>While I agree with your sentiment about shrouded anything or exe's on
>the list or just about anywhere for that matter, the tone could use a
>little adjustment. 


I think me reply was quite polite. 
I think wasting 200+ people's time and money is extremely rude.


Anybody who finds it nessesary to include win32lib in a
demo about shrouding and including is obviously not 
thinking very much at all. The same thing could have
been demonstrated with about 10 lines of code.


>George has shown himself to be a reliable and useful and
>capable member of the list. 

(Graeme takes a deep breath and let's that one go)

>I know that there have been disagreements, but the implied thought 
>that George might have deliberately downloaded us a virus is uncalled for. 


HUH?????
(re-reads origional message)
HUH?????????????


>He was demonstrating a question about shrouding that required the use of 
>shrouding and Win32lib to produce his point. 


I must have missed something, how was win32lib required to
demonstrate adding an include line to a shrouded file?


>I agree that he should have 
>put it into a tutorial or on a website or emailed it, but the rest is
uncalled for. 


What rest? that was the whole point.

And it's a point that's been raised again and again by many
people over the entire history of this list.


>I find most of your code excellent and your arguments clear, 
>but the accompanying heat sometimes muddies your otherwise excellent
presentations.


Thanks, and I do agee. Many things I have posted in anger
I have regretted, however this is not one of them.


>You also might note that, having accomplished a working demonstration,
>it is sometimes less than immediately obvious how to deconstruct it into
>source level code and instructions that will easily accomplish the same thing
>on someone else's machine.

What does that have to do with where it is posted?


Thanks for your reply, Rett, and the polite manner
in which you voiced your opinion, but I think I'm
standing on solid granite with this one.



Graeme.




BTW: It was Chris who posted the code, not George.







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