Euphoria and Windows
- Posted by g.malagnini at tin.it
Jun 04, 2003
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Windows and Euphoria=20
Being Euphoria programming system strategically oriented to support =
itself as multi platform product, it cannot provide and support =
features that, even if capable of improving the effectiveness of the =
program for one platform, cannot provide same results for the other =
supported platforms.
This is the case of Windows, where since years external developers had =
to propose to the user community additional features to complete, =
improve and optimise the possibilities offered by Euphoria.
The major examples are the editor, the Win32Lib and the IDE.
According with my understanding the situation is today much better than =
a couple of years ago:
- the Euphoria project team addresses in a more direct way Windows users =
to utilize the mentioned features.
- Win32Lib and IDE have become products that groups of developers =
support, assuring the continuity of the old code and its updating with =
the proposal coming from several sources.
This is a good result, but I would propose to extend the efforts to =
provide an even more suitable product for the Windows oriented =
developers, especially for the new ones.
Even if, as I mentioned before, the situation is significantly improved =
today, the new user has still to=20
cope with a set of problems before deciding if Euphoria is a good =
solution for him in the Windows environment:
- he has to download three products, with separated documentations to =
evaluate (part of it can be printed, part is available on line only, =
terms can slightly differ sometime).
- these products are first installed separately; then the problem of how =
to merge them comes up.
- All products have a set of libraries, to be merged somehow
- three different editors are available, leaving up to the user to =
decide which one to use
- the three products will provide new releases independently each other, =
leaving some concerns to the user for the compatibility problem and the =
likely different updating procedures
- .............
My proposal is the following: the three project teams should agree to =
make a unique Windows Euphoria package available for the interested =
users.
One of these teams (or a fourth one, if they prefer) should be =
responsible to merge the three complementary product in one, avoid any =
duplication (one installation and updating procedure, one installation =
environment, one set of documentation, only the most suitable editor, =
etc.), and to test it for the distribution.
This could be compared with the existing packages of "Linux =
distribution."
This would certainly would assure to the potentially users an easier =
product evaluation, an almost immediate test of its capabilities, an =
higher degree of acceptance and, as consequence, a fast expansion of =
Euphoria.
Best regards
Gianfranco Malagnini
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Windows and Euphoria </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Being Euphoria programming system =
strategically=20
oriented to support itself as multi platform product, it cannot =
provide=20
and support features that, even if capable of improving the =
effectiveness=20
of the program for one platform, cannot provide same results for =
the other=20
supported platforms.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is the case of Windows, where =
since years=20
external developers had to propose to the user community additional =
features to=20
complete, improve and optimise the possibilities offered by=20
Euphoria.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The major examples are the editor, the =
Win32Lib and=20
the IDE.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>According with my understanding the =
situation is=20
today much better than a couple of years ago:<BR>- the Euphoria project =
team=20
addresses in a more direct way Windows users to utilize the mentioned=20
features.<BR>- Win32Lib and IDE have become products that groups of =
developers=20
support, assuring the continuity of the old code and its updating with =
the=20
proposal coming from several sources.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is a good result, but I would =
propose to=20
extend the efforts to provide an even more suitable product for the =
Windows=20
oriented developers, especially for the new ones.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Even if, as I mentioned before, the =
situation is=20
significantly improved today, the new user has still to <BR>cope with a =
set of=20
problems before deciding if Euphoria is a good solution for him in the =
Windows=20
environment:<BR>- he has to download three products, with separated=20
documentations to evaluate (part of it can be printed, part is available =
on line=20
only, terms can slightly differ sometime).<BR>- these products are first =
installed separately; then the problem of how to merge them comes =
up.<BR>- All=20
products have a set of libraries, to be merged somehow<BR>- three =
different=20
editors are available, leaving up to the user to decide which one to =
use<BR>-=20
the three products will provide new releases independently each other, =
leaving=20
some concerns to the user for the compatibility problem and the likely =
different=20
updating procedures<BR>- .............</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My proposal is the following: the three =
project=20
teams should agree to make a unique Windows Euphoria package available =
for the=20
interested users.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One of these teams (or a fourth one, if =
they=20
prefer) should be responsible to merge the three complementary product =
in one,=20
avoid any duplication (one installation and updating procedure, =
one=20
installation environment, one set of documentation, only the most =
suitable=20
editor, etc.), and to test it for the distribution.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This could be compared with the =
existing packages=20
of "Linux distribution."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This would certainly would assure to =
the=20
potentially users an easier product evaluation, an almost immediate test =
of its=20
capabilities, an higher degree of acceptance and, as consequence, a fast =
expansion of Euphoria.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Gianfranco=20
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