Re: An idea for a "moderation period" based list server WAS:
Your idea is a good one. It would be nice to moderate only those
subscribers who
need to be. Unfortunately, Topica at least, doesn't support subscriber
moderation..
If moderation is performed, it must be performed on the ENTIRE list.
Regarding the vengeance of MTS.. if it comes down to banning him/someone
from
the list.. I suggest the list will have to go into WEB only mode for a
while to protect
peeps from mass email flooding. (BTW Mike: That is EXTREMELY illegal and
could
cost you a lifetime of computer usage)
As well, once everyone is moved over. I suggest the list be set to
subscriber
verification by the list owner. This stops perps from coming back under an
alias and taking their vengeance.
A way that new subscriber moderation can be acheived, is to make any new
subscribers, who are in the requested subscription list, post via RDS
FWD'ing. By this I mean they send their msgs to the moderator, he/she in
turn verifies the content, and FWD's it to the list.
This way, any people who are wanting to join the list will have to post a
minimum number of msgs as well as wait the duration of the probationary
period. By probationary period, I mean, whether they post the required
minimum number of posts or not, they are still not subscribed until the
period ends.
This will virtually eliminate the likes of hellions that might make it onto
the list. They get one crude msg in.. They better hope it's a good one and
well worth it, because it will be very difficult to get back on again under
any alias.. Like Cliff said..
Chris
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:38:39 +0100, Cliff Bendrix <bendrixx at HOTMAIL.COM>
wrote:
>How about this for a list server setup?
>
>1)
>Anyone can subscribe and read the posts.
>
>2)
>For the first month (or whatever) of being on the list your posts to the
>list (if any) are moderated.
>
>3)
>If you go the whole first month (or whatever) without submitting an
>offending post you can then post unmoderated.
>
>4)
>Offenders are removed from the list and not allowed to resubscribe from
that
>email address.
>
>5)
>If changing an existing email list to this format assume all current
members
>have already gone a whole month (or whatever) without posting anything
>offensive. I.e. they have unmoderated status from day one.
>
>Ok we need a moderator but the moderator will not have to monitor all the
>posts. In fact the amount of moderation might be very small and here is
>why.
>
>a)
>A lot of newcomers to an email list tend to "lurk" for a while on a new
list
>before they post. Infact this habit is often encouraged as being good
>"netiquete".
>
>b)
>My arbitray choice of a whole month can be "tuned". If this was changed to
>a week then the moderation work would be roughly a quarter compared to a
>month's worth. Maybe less if the "lurking" aspect is taken into
>consideration.
>
>This set up helps combat the problem of repeated email list abuse from
>multiple email addresses. In the scenarios I describe below I am assuming
a
>duration of one week before a new user can post unmoderated. Let's call
>this value the "moderation period".
>
>Scenario #1
>A free email account address is used to subscribe and then immediately
tries
>to send an abusive post. Because it is less that a week since subscription
>it is caught by the moderator, is bounced, the email address banned from
the
>list and the message is never distributed to any list members.
>
>Scenario #2
>A free email account address is used to subscribe. The account either
>remains dormant for a week or no offending posts are sent from it. Then on
>day eight an abusive post is sent. As the week moderation period has
>expired the post, unfortunately, reaches all members of the list *BUT* the
>list admin can then ban the email address from the list so that email
>account cannot be used again for future abusive posts. Another free email
>account needs to be created and subscribed but this new account is subject
>to the week moderation period as well so it is no good for a follow up
>abusive post for a whole week.
>
>Ok I think this set up would deter *most* people from repeated abuse of an
>email list. Does anyone know of an existing list server or list server
>software that does this?
>
>BUT! (and there is always a but) a *determined* abuser could do the
>following:
>
>Say they want an ability to post up to 4 abusive messages to the email list
>on any particular day. For a week they set up 4 free email accounts every
>day and subscribe them to the email list. On day eight and every
subsequent
>day they must continue to set up 4 free email accounts and subscribe them.
>However from day eight they can use the 4 email accounts set up on day one
>to safely get up to four abusive emails through. They have to keep track
of
>(7 * 4) 28 free email accounts at one time to do so however and imagine the
>frustration if after your 4th abusive email of the day someone flames you
>back big time and you have to wait an agonising day before flaming back.
Oh
>the humiliation :-]
>
>Also lets consider if the the moderation period was a whole month. An
>offender now has (31 * 4) 124 free email accounts to be set up (!) before
>you can guarantee your abusive email would get to all list members. And
you
>have a whole 31 days to wait before you can send the first abusive email.
>
>Someone clever (!) might satisfy themselves with being able to send abusive
>emails to the list just during week days so if a moderation period of a
week
>is in place then (5 * 4) 20 free email accounts need to be on the go for an
>ability of up to 4 abusive emails a week day. That's still hassle in my
>mind.
>
>The list admin could change the moderation period silently to cause the
>above strategy to fall over for the abusive poster every now and again.
>
>If the list admin has access to a log of what email addresses are
subscribed
>to the email list and when (and most do) then if an email abuser uses the
>above technique on a "moderation period" email list then these logs would
>make interesting reading.
>
>Personally I think this idea would be rather spiffy. Lots of room for
>tweaks, enhancements and the like. I can't imagine that no one else has
>thought of it before. Anyone have any links on this?
>
>Cliff Bendrix.
>
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