Re: [OT] Re: Artificial What?
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>> From: <jbrown1050 at hotpop.com>
>> To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 4:43 PM
>> Subject: [OT] Re: Artificial What?
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>> > On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 07:05:27PM -0500, gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
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>> > > > Think away all you like. It is what you *do* that defines you.
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>> > > Well, there's the rub, i am undefined.
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>> > > Kat
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>> > No you arent. You are a brilliant mIRC and Euphoria coder, and one of the
>> > resident Win95 experts.
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>> > You appear to know LOADS of programming and have tons of experience.
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>> > And thats just the computer stuff.
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>> Kat &= {"House builder", "Car engine rebuilder"} ... :)
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> Yes, but those are for myself. Anything i do offline isn't done for anyone
> else.
> The concept of me doing it, and being disabled, cannot exist in their little
> minds simultaneously. (someone exclaimed "you can't possibly replace the
> crankshaft bearings!", to which i replied "i was laying down in my back under
> it, with all tools within reach, and the crank a foot away from me, who would
> have used their feet in that situation?",,, they brain-locked real tight, it
> was
> an interesting sight) (same for sitting on the roof, laying in tin) (same for
> kneeling by the truck, where the rear tire was, replacing the rear springs)
> (same for coding Tiggr) I miss the human interaction in real life. A robot,
> understanding the situation, not assuming i cannot keep up with anyone
> else, sounds about right for me. I would prolly grow into the idea of it being
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> the host for a spirit, like anything else could. Many "native peoples" believe
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> non-human beings, and even non-animate things, can or do host a spirit. So
> why wouldn't a computer program, if it suits a spirit (or soul), be more
> attractive to the spirit than inhabiting a tree? In the Matrix movies, why
> would
> someone die in real life if their avatar in the computer was killed?
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> Kat
IMO, there is a possibility that individual "spirits" are just
illusions. Each material construct, from which living bodies are just a
small part, have various degrees of complexity and awareness. The latter
means ability to perceive, remember, plan and execute actions based on
the above. In that sense, all constructs have spirit, but the range of
amplitude is really, really wide. This is different from saying each
construct has its own spirit, with the endless transmission problem that
end up in paradoxes, since they don't have a real base. See last part of
Irv's post, which I totally agree with.
CChris
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