Re: What's really holding Euphoria back...

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I am new to Euphoria too. And to the list. And like everybody, I'm *very*
impressed with the language. I agree with Michael Sabal about why it is'nt
more popular. Let it be standard on all Linux, it will be a good step.
Above all, for whom is it so interesting? customers don't matter if their
soft was written in C++, Pascal, Java or Euphoria...as long as it works.
But we, the programmers (halleluyah) , we like it cause IT'S FUN!
so my suggestion: try to bring it into the schools and let euphoria take
the place of QuickBasic for the beginners (just after Logo blink. (And those
beginners don't need structures.)

A tip for those who own an Ati Xpert@Work and use Dos32 euphoria:
You must add "use_vesa(1)" in your program, and load the tsr:
"m64vbe s vga" in your autoexec.bat .

A question: I bought some time ago an old TIGA graphic card. I tried to
find the drivers on the net, but didn't succeed. Could someone help me
find "tigacd.exe", or how can I program the card? thanx a lot.

Riwal Raude
rauder at thmulti.com

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From: MindVentur at AOL.COM
To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
Subject: Re: What's really holding Euphoria back...
Date: Tuesday 2 February 1999 03:47

I am still just playing with euphoria and have yet to write anything
"serious"
but I doubt that issues like structures etc. are holding the language back
that much. I think look and feel has more to do with it than anything else.

Programming in euphoria is a great, simple idea that is very easy for the
newest of newbies to pick up on quickly. Right? Why then does the program
install from a very bland dos screen with lots of "dos-speak" in the
instructions?

IMHO, this is what it needs...

        An attractive, user-friendly IDE would help tremendously -- maybe
one
                for DOS32 and one for Windows
        An easy, "dos-free" or nearly free installation
        More built-in functions like fast sprites, fonts, SVGA, sound, etc.
        A nicely formatted PDF manual make a lot better impression
                than the text and now HTML (which is better than the text
though).
        Include some "flashy" demo programs -- maybe some games with
                nice sprites, music etc. show that you can make professional
                quality software with it and people will take it more
seriously.

If you want people to use it, it's got to be attractive. There are some nice
tools out there to use with euphoria and lots of great include files. Most
people would be turned off to it before they ever got far enough to find
these
things out.

Just my $.02

Charles

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