Re: What? No game libs?
>What bugs me in Euphoria is that there are no good
>game libraries for it. Sure there is euAllegro for
>windows, wich is incomplete and restricted to win32
euAllegro should be able to be ported to Linux with
very little effort (if I knew Linux better and could
get my monitor fixed on my Linux Box I'd have a better
chance!!)
I should also note the currrent version of Allegro is
a Work in progress 3.933 and the 4.0 release is expected
in the near future. It is very stable as it is though.
It in theory it might be possible to use the translator
to create DOS executables but I can't promise it, or
how much effort is required.
So in theory ... euAllegro could (with work) be able
to support the 3 platforms.
Yes it is incomplete and needs more doco and that will
come with time as well. When I say incomplete it still
has around 200 functions documented and mostly tested
plus another 100 or so functions available that I haven't
documented. Right now and it has the power to produce
top quality games (or graphics apps).
It still is incomplete because Allegro (the C original)
is huge. There are functions in their for doing tasks
that possibly will never ever be required by Euphoria
programmers.
One of the reasons I did release euAllegro when I did
(apart from the fact I was burning out) was to get user
reaction. if noone was going to use it, I wasn't going to
spend the next 3-6 months of life creating something for
little reason.
I must note that Allegro (and euAllegro with Mappy, JGMOD
and PPCol) in my opinion gives the programmer everything
required to write any NON 3D game.
Yes 3D games are all the go now, and probably will continue
to be so ... so Allegro .. and euAllegro isn't for everyone
but for any non 3D game euAllegro is definately a good option.
There actually are 3D routines in Allegro but as
far as I understand Allegro doesn't support any 3D cards
and uses software rendering which will always be slow.
It only has low level 3D routines ... no routines you'd
expect in a 3D engine.
euAllegro has some benefits over C Allegro ...
firstly the added libraries .. JGMOD, Mappy and PPCol.
yes these are all available but you have to obtain
them seperately and compile link etc each library.
The doco eventually will be completely integrated and will
be in the one place for each library. Again it is all in
seperate readme and .txt files for each library ... but
probably the biggest benifit is that euAllegro uses Euphoria
and is easier to create your logic in Euphoria rather than C.
>We should write a multiplatform games library for
>Euphoria, something like Allegro for C.
euAllegro will be when complete.
DOS Euphoria will always be difficult to support since there
is no way of linking it to external libraries ... except the
Translator hack which no one has tested ... AFAIK
I asked Rob the question once was it possible ... but never
got a responce ... probably because I asked the question at
the bottom an email on the mailing list .. and he probably
didn't see it.
Anyway ... I have been giving you all the benefits ...
I have to say I'm currently not working on euAllegro ...
and probably won't have another major release until someone
asks for more routines to be wrapped ... I sort have been informed
informally that the GUI routines would be nice. So they
will be first on the list I guess
cya
Ray.
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