Re: General Questions about Euphoria..exe file size minimum

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----- Original Message -----
From: <lakatzz at juno.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Subject: Re: General Questions about Euphoria..exe file size minimum


>
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 13:46:09 -0500
> euman at bellsouth.net writes:
> >  .png files can not be used with euphoria at this time,
> > no-one I know of has written a wrapper "code" to use this
> > file format.
>
> So there are some limits.  I just read from another msg that there is no
> "goto" & "string" function.  I am abit
> disappointed of the size of the "binded" file size at
> this time.  I have already tried unsuccessfully, to compress a pgm that
> was written with Euphoria.  The pgm
> file got corrupted when I compress/pack the pgm file.
>

"goto" is purposely ommitted in order to insure structured program
standards.
 What Euphoria does not have is a way to *execute* strings, not a way to
deal with them.
The size of the "binded" program is somewhat large because it includes the
interpreter itself.
What method to compress a program did you use? Was it a source or a "binded"
program? How did you use it once compressed? Normally compression does not
corrupt files. I zipped many times both source and "binded" Euphoria
programs without loss.

> I do have a small viewer I am playing with now & the
> file size is less than 10k.  While it is limited to it's
> ability to do some things I would like, it will view large
> text files, which is what the pgm is designed to do, has
> a "goto", "string" & "find" command in it.  For what I am
> trying to use it for, it can not do some things that
> Windoz's pgms do.  I am trying to find a pgm that will
> do the same my emailer pgm can do but written for Dos.
> View large text file, sort, find, & search featured in the
> viewer.  List.com is/was a popular text viewer made with
> Dos in mind but not designed for my application.
>

A "goto" in a viewer is not the same and does not perform the same function
as a "goto" in a source program.
Will you please explain why "list.com" is not designed for your application?
There are many editors in the web that may suit your needs. Aurora is one of
them. It cannot be found now in the web, but I can mail you a copy of it. It
is shareware for DOS, but as the company apparently dissapeared, it is
difficult to pay for it.

> > Problem is that some of the image formats contain
> > proprietary code and require a liscense to use the format > this is why
> you dont see any code to use them.
>
> The code file that supports these other format is not
> available without registering Euphoria?
>
It has nothing to do with registration. I do not know if there is software
dealing with these formats that can be accessed from Euphoria programs.

> > Take my word for it, there is more than enough code to
> > display, manipulate, animate, etc, images already on
> > the user-contrib site that you'll be buisy for at least a
> > year learning from them.
>
> Do you know other programming languages & use them when
> you can not get Euphoria to do what you want?
>
Yes. I sometimes use Assembler, C, APL. One can use Assembler within
Euphoria. But usually I am satisfied with Euphoria alone.

> Thanks for info.  While Euphoria is limited I like that
> it can work in multiple os's.  I am just wondering if with
> only afew key program files such as ex.exe, exw.exe, win32lib.ew & maybe
> afew others, that I can run some pgms
> & save hard drive space at the same time.
>
Euphoria is great to save space, because it is interpreted. If you do not
need to hide your code from prying eyes, it is usually best to use directly
the source code.

> Lee
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <lakatzz at juno.com>
> > To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 06:11
> > Subject: General Questions about Euphoria..exe file size minimum
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