Re: Micro-Economy
don cole wrote:
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> CChris wrote:
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> > Jules Davy wrote:
> > >
> > > Al Getz wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps instead of a micro econ there could be a site where people
> > > > can leave short notes about what they think of the program.
> > > > Currently, the micro econ makes a statement about people who
> > > > use the program and like it but leaves no way open for constructive
> > > > criticism...you cant vote minus $1 (-1 microbuck) if you DONT like
> > > > a program, or that program crashes as soon as you run it.
> > > > Positive feedback is a good thing, but negative feedback is what
> > > > makes control systems work. If it wasnt for
> > > > that negative feedback systems all over the world would be
> > > > crashing day after day. If the users have a quick and simple
> > > > way of letting the writers know about a problem the author would
> > > > know rigth away and possibly make changes to correct the problem.
> > > >
> > > > Also, when the same person votes over and over again for the same
> > > > program that inflates its true impact on the community. Perhaps
> > > > a limit of one vote per program for the same person.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Al
> > >
> > > Great idea. I've often downloaded programs only to find they crash
> > > immediately
> > > and/or have serious bugs. I don't know how easy it would be to implement,
> > > but
> > > its in the spirit of open source and well worth doing IMO.
> >
> > It is easy to implement. However, it requires one or more moderators,
> > depending
> > on how many reviews will be posted daily, to correctly associate a review
> > with
> > the reviewed progrm, filter out spam, inflationary posts etc.
> >
> > I'd suggest the review pages to be accessible both as a group (a dedicated
> > page full of links on the site) and from each individual file in
> > archive(recent section (using the smiley, or lack of it, could be good).
> >
> > This, plus any suggested attempt to compile dependencies or similar, will
> > require work. Some of us will have to share, and the trickiest part could be
> > enabling good willing people to access the reviews and avlidate them, or to
> > scan through the whole program list and compile the dependency list, or
> > whatever else would require such a thorough review.
> >
> > About dependencies: assume a contrib includes v1.23 of a library. Current
> > version is 2.3. Are we supposed to check which is the latest version that
> > will be compatible with the program, ie "it requires v1.23, v1.47 will do
> > but v2.0 crashes"?
> >
> > I remember such ideas were floated in the past, like compiling the global
> > symbols created by libraries. No criticism, but nothing happened either.
> >
> > CChris
>
> Sorry Al,
>
> But after reading CChris' post I don't believe having a user comments for
>
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> each upload is a good idea. Complaints such as wrong versions, missing
>
> includes and crashes could be addressed right here on this forum. And if
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> something worked well for you, you could say that too.
>
> No extra programing or moderators needed.
>
> Don Cole
This idea of listing all global symbols imported is not mine, and was raised
a few years ago. I still support it anyway, as long as Euphoria doesn't have
a package system. I designed one, but still didn't test it, so I don't know
wneh I'll submit it - not before a couple month I'm afraid.
Do you think mixing the program reviews with all the posts in the forum is a
good idea? I think just the opposite. I thought that anyone going to the
contrib/recent page could acces the reviews of a file he's about to download.
Do you think anyone will go to the forum and do a search for the file name?
The forum is already full of very different sorts of posts, and complaints
regularly crop up about it not being split for easier reading. Note that
I still advocate a common message list somewhere, but ability for everyone
to choose among 3-4 thematic subforums - for instance: bug report, Eu
features/development, technical assistance (Eu or Eu written programs),
others related topics. Just a suggestion.
So yes, it needs some specific programming and moderation.
CChris
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