RE: Couple questions/"features" about Judith's IDE
SR.Williamson wrote:
> Used it today for a project that I'd been putting off as not worth the
> trouble. Very, very good, and very handy.
>
> But....
>
> There were a couple things. I had it crash on me once, and I don't know
> why. I was never able to duplicate it, and I was multitasking pretty
> heavily so I don't remember what might have caused it. More later if it
> happens again. If not, no problem.
I've had some crashes with IDE usually when I'm needing to recycle. I
suspect there are memory leaks.
>
> Also, weird behavior from the group control. I originally had a form
> layed out without groups, then decided it would look better and be
> easier to change it if I had a bunch of EditTexts on groups instead. So
> I moved them over. I had the darnedest time getting them to work right.
> I would try to edit the location in the property sheet so that I could
> line them up, but it kept sending them to the location as soon as I
> started typing the numbers, so if it was supposed to be 100, it would
> send it to location 1.
To add existing EditTexts, or any control, to a new control, such as a
group, first select and drop the group onto Form Design. The easy way to
move the EditTexts to the Group is via mouse or keyboard arrow keys.
Properties was designed to be instantly interactive with Design but I've
changed that behavior for a few Properties attributes. I've got an
outstanding request on my ToDo list to change X, Y, CX and CY only after
an enter key but I have not gotten to it yet.
>
> That wasn't the worst part. Sometimes after it would do that, it would
> automatically go to the next control, so I would be typing in the wrong
> location for that control also. Quite the pain.
I'm not sure how the next control got into Properties. Could you perhaps
have clicked in Design?
>
> Then after I had it set and saved, I tried to move the group, and all of
>
> them moved fine except one. None of the controls moved with that group.
> I have no idea what was different about that one.
You tried to move with mouse or via Properties? It could be that the
problems you encountered with Properties did not assign parenting to the
EditTexts properly. When a control is moved into a container control,
the container becomes its parent, until the control is moved away again.
Also some containers will try to obtain parenting over a control it is
moved over.
>
> Seems it would be really handy to have a multiple select (I've mentioned
>
> this before), or to make it clear how to do it if it's already there. It
>
> doesn't seem to follow the Windows standard if it is.
I have a request for multiple control select for Properties caption. I
intend to use left click followed by ctrl+left click for additional
selections. I would change all selected controls to the caption
subsequently entered for the first one. I made a stab at this request
awhile back without success. What attributes would you be wanting to
change with multiple select?
>
> Another thing that would go well would be a way to lay out controls in a
>
> grid, automatically. There may be a way now, but it wasn't obvious if
> so.
Look at TABLE control. There are specific instructions how to use it in
IDE.htm near the bottom of the document.
>
> One other thing: is there going to be some documentation at some point?
Other than IDE.htm? I'm working on a "Guide for new users of IDE" but it
is very sketchy at this point. I've also been asked for a Tutorial.
IDE.htm is not well organized. There are so many requests for IDE that
documentation keeps sliding back.
> Most of the stuff was pretty intuitive if you've used VB or Builder or
> Delphi before, but I wasn't sure about how to use the code editor
> (though I figured it out eventually) or the module stuff.
>
> Still, even with the small flaws, well worth the time spent on it. Good
> job!
Thanks. Many people have made suggestions and offered code. They all
deserve credit.
Judith
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