RE: Eu Editors

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mistertrik at hotmail.com wrote:
> Actually, speaking of the IDE...
> 
> I started using it recently, and I find it extremely useful.

Words we like to hear smile


> 
> The only bugbears I have are with that editor.

You will be happy to know *that* editor was rewritten by Don Phillips 
for the next release. 

I try to issue a new release every other month. the last one was two 
months in the making and it looks like the next is three. I'm sorry for 
the delay but I put in a lot of new thngs for the next version and built 
myself into a corner with one of them until some issues were resolved.

> 
> Bugbear 1:
> 
> The Ctrl key doesnt work. if you hold down ctrl and use the arrow keys, 
> it 
> should shift the cursor left or right one word. (it doesn't right now)

Will work correctly in next version.


> 
> Bugbear 2:
> 
> The Delete key should remove the character to the right of the cursor.
> at the moment, it removes one character to the left, and one to the 
> right.

Will work correctly in next version.


> 
> Bugbear 3:
> >The way it pops up
> >now is a bit intrusive, to say the least.
> 
> I agree. If we could have a function key mapped to toggle that on and 
> off 
> when it pops up, that would be very nice.

If you click anywhere in the body of editor the Hint popup will 
disappear. You can also turn Hints off in Menu Item and use Ctrl+space 
to force it to appear when you want it.

In the next version the Hint popup is in its own canvas window, so you 
can move it aside whenever you wish.


> 
> 
> Ask for Features (ie not bugbears :))

Please ask. The only way I can make IDE better is when I know what 
people need.  


> 
> *When you set 'owner' of a control, it gives you a dropdown list?

You can not set Parent of a control, if this is what you mean. Except 
for secondary Windows or the primary window when the output a .ew file. 
Then a dropdown of allowable window names is presented. Parent is 
established by IDE when a control is moved into (or out of) a container 
control.

Do you have a need to set the 'owner' yourself?


> 
> *Make the namespace a little more tolerant of typing. IE atm it doesnt 
> like 
> you deleting all the characters in the name attribute before typing in a 
> new 
> one. If it could hold off until it loses focus, then perhaps that would 
> be 
> better.

Martin Stachon has rewritten Properties for the next release and it does 
allow waiting until user moves to another property before issuing an 
error message. However, I found it safer to issue the message when the 
error happens. There is a way around the problem and it is to use 'Wait 
for Enter Key' under the Configuration Menu. What this allows is for you 
to set which properties will not issue error messages or take action 
such as redrawing or changing text until you press Enter key. Not all 
properties can use Wait For Enter Key, just the ones I felt caused 
problems like you describe. Your selection in Wait For Enter Key is 
retained for the next time you use IDE.

After making a change to 'Wait For Enter Key', it will take action on 
the *next* control you click, since it activates when new information is 
loaded into Properties. I probably should change this to take action 
right away, hum....

> 
> 
> Anyway, a fine effort Judith, David. Keep it up.

Thank you. Many people are now actively involved and provide 
improvements, routines and even replacement modules.

Judith

> =====================================================
> .______<-------------------\__
> / _____<--------------------__|===
> ||_    <-------------------/
> \__| Mr Trick
> 
> 
> >From: petelomax at blueyonder.co.uk
> >Reply-To: EUforum at topica.com
> >To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
> >Subject: Re: Eu Editors
> >Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 11:23:11 +0100
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 00:08:26 +0200, Henri Goffin <H.Goffin at skynet.be>
> >wrote:
> >
> > >Here's my contribution for UltraEdit (V9.10)
> > >[!?]Context-sensitive EU-specific help (as per (4))
> >
> >With Judith's IDE there is a (demo) editor.exw which, editing eg
> >
> >constant EditMenu = create( Menu, "&Edit", CalcWin, 0, 28, 0, 0, 0 )
> >
> >when cursor is between the '(' and ')', it shows a tip of the form:
> >
> >function create (integer class,sequence caption,atom parent,integer x,
> >integer y,integer cx,integer cy,integer flags)
> >
> >with the parameter the cursor is on shown in bold. The way it pops up
> >now is a bit intrusive, to say the least, but there is a handy list of
> >374 routines and all their parameters already written.
> >
> > >[Y]Cost
> >[$35.00]
> > >[!?]URL
> >http://www.ultraedit.com/
> > >[!?]Additional URL
> >French, German, Spanish versions available
> >US, UK, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Spanish and Swedish
> >spell check dictionaries available
> > >.
> > >Henri Goffin
> >
> >Thanks, Pete
> >
> >

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