Re: left, right? head, tail? which one?

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CChris wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry, but how many people today (not back in 1993) come to Eu after
> non-Visual
> Basic? My guesstimate is 0.

*raises hand*
I had (and still have) zero VB experience.

> 
> What had attracted me in the language, in spite of all its drawbacks, is the
> intuitiveness of sequences. I have read some stuff about it being hard to
> hrasp,
> all right, but I simply don't understand what the problem is, and hence of how
> to alleviate it.
> 
> You know, Windows XP comes with some version of Python. Lots of newbie
> programmers
> will start, and have started, with Python.

It does? That's news to me. Tell me, where is python in a standard XP install?
Because the few times that I've used it (to run third-party stuff, not my own)
I've had to install Python separately.

> If they later come to Eu because
> of the simplicity/performance mix, they won't be newbies in programming any
> more. Add in a few that started tinkering with VBA/VBE at the office. Sure,
> it's Basic, but already object Basic. And again, if these people come to Eu,
> it's because they understand what they are doig, so are not real newbies.
> 
> In a nutshell, I think that centering on what newbies are supposed to
> understand
> easily or not is not the right target for Eu, since people ocoming to it
> nowadays
> are usually not newbies in programming.
> 
> CChris

I agree that people coming to Euphoria aren't necessarily absolute newbies to
programming, and that there are probably better systems out there for people who
are absolute newbies.

Of course, I don't see the relevance of the comment with regards to the quoted
section.

--
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple
system that works.
--John Gall's 15th law of Systemantics.

"Premature optimization is the root of all evil in programming."
--C.A.R. Hoare

j.

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