Re: Newbies - a proposal

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On 22 Sep 2004, at 0:14, Brian Broker wrote:

> 
> 
> posted by: Brian Broker <bkb at cnw.com>
> 
> Kat wrote:
> > 
> > On 22 Sep 2004, at 14:07, Patrick Barnes wrote:
> > 
> > > > I consider how to use the language, and what it can do, to be far more
> > > > important than how to set up to run it. Setup is a one-time event, a
> > > > easy
> > > > setup on a(nother) language that cannot do anything isn't worth the
> > > > read.
> > > 
> > > That is true... However if someone can't even set the development
> > > environemt up, they're not going to get to programming. Rob, I really
> > > think you ought to automate this a bit more...
> > 
> > Lemme try again.... if i don't see the howto of a language, an example of
> > how
> > the words are used, and what the language words are, i won't bother to
> > download the language. Presto, no setup. I haveto be already interested in a
> > language to download a language with no online help, with all the docs in
> > the
> > download/install package.
> > 
> > And win/dos isn't that nice about installing anyhow, what with the rebooting
> > and fixed paths and such. I deleted the Eu-specific lines in autoexec, and
> > just copy a /bin dir everywhere i go.
> > 
> > Kat
> > 
> 
> Ouch! Do you do that with every programming environment you use?  If rebooting
> is an issue then why not just create a batch file to do the minimal
> environment
> setup?

Is this two different topics now? 
Re: kat rebooting <<== nothing to do with docs online
Re: using a language <<== nothing to do with rebooting

> For example:
> -- start file Euphoria.bat --
> 
> REM -- launch a command prompt for Euphoria programming
> 
> REM -- add euphoria\bin to your path
> PATH=%PATH%;C:\EUPHORIA\BIN
> 
> REM -- add EUDIR environment variable
> EUDIR=C:\EUPHORIA
> 
> REM -- add EUINC environment variable, for example:
> EUINC=C:\EUPHORIA\INCLUDE\Win32Lib\Include;C:\EUPHORIA\INCLUDE\EuAllegro
> 
> -- end Euphoria.bat --
> 
> Now double-click Euphoria.bat and presto!
> 
> Just a thought, no flames required...

No flames needed, but remember that issue i have brought up many times 
over the years, the file locking that Eu does? The file locking that RDS says 
may occur during the linking, but then stop? It STILL doesn't stop. So pretty 
much for each and every application i do, for each running process, i find 
there's a lot less problems if i drag/drop the required files to a new dir,
using
a separate everything for each process. It's really annoying to find 6 Eu apps 
tried to start, and only the first one succeeded.

Kat

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