Re: Euphoria needs more popularity!
Derek Parnell wrote:
> Version 2.0 Official Release March 25, 1998
> + 12 months
> Version 2.1 Official Release for WIN32 + DOS32 March 29, 1999
> + 10 months
> Version 2.2 Official Release for WIN32+DOS32 January 14, 2000
> + 25 months
During that time I spent a year designing, developing and porting the
Euphoria to C Translator to 4 platforms and 7 different C compilers.
I should have merged that information into the release notes.
> Version 2.3 Official Release February 11, 2002
> + 18 months
> Version 2.4 Official Release July 3, 2003
> + 18 months?
> Version 2.5 ?December, 2004?
> That's right, we have moved from v2.0 to v2.5 in 6.5 years. Not Fast.
Maybe I should call the next one 3.0. Will that help?
Isn't Win32Lib officially still an "alpha" release, 0.60.5,
after those same 6.5 years? 
> RDS is slow to release anything, and they keep declining offers of help.
> Could this be another reason for people being discouraged?
>
> Yes, I know there is a shitload of work to get out a new release, but
> there is also many able people to help, if only you'd let them.
Yeah, I heard you can produce a baby in 1 month by
assigning 9 women to the job.
> I would prefer a major release every 6 months with weekly minor (patch)
> releases, instead of this cold molasses.
That's what I keep telling myself.
It just never works out that way.
There's just a lot of overhead in getting
a new release out, plus when do I charge for an upgrade?
I'll give it some thought.
> Perfection is not so nearly
> as important as improvement. Having a perfect product that doesn't meet
> my needs is not much use. Having a nearly perfect product that I can still
> use is a much better prospect.
>
> Robert,
> Are you using beta testers?
Every official release comes after an alpha and a beta
release. Earlier releases would waste my time on
handling a lot of bug reports and questions. I have tons of
existing Euphoria code I can use as testing fodder.
> Has anyone impartially inspected or reviewed your code?
Not besides Junko, but very soon the entire world will
be able to inspect the front-end of Euphoria, and everyone will
own a complete Euphoria interpreter with 100% Euphoria source code,
able to run all Euphoria programs on all platforms.
> Do you have a formal(-ish) issue log that you are working through?
Yes.
> Do you need more man-hours in the day to work on Euphoria?
Of course.
> Sorry to sound so frustrated, but I am. I love Euphoria and I continue
> to champion it, but I also begin to tire.
I thank you for your patience, and your tremendous
efforts on Win32Lib. Euphoria would be in deep trouble without you.
I'd like to speed up my progress too. I have been slacking
off a bit, but you have to give me credit for sticking with
this project for 15 years (since initial design - 1.0 was
released 11 years ago). But I would certainly turn it over to
the masses if I couldn't or didn't want to continue.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
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