OpenEuphoria

Re: Broken Euphoria

• Posted by Chris Bensler <bensler at nt.net> Sep 28, 2006
• 1223 views

Vincent wrote:
> 
> Chris Bensler wrote:
> > 
> > Mambo has no basis in Euphoria.
> > 
> > I will continue to work on my own language.
> > I've been working on it for several years, I'm not about to abandon that so
> > I can start over.
> > 
> > First of all though. Why does the official version of Euphoria have to be
> > the
> > winner? Is it really that inconceievable that Rob's vision of Euphoria is
> > limited
> > and the Community's pressure to implement features will contaminate the
> > elegant
> > language that people were attracted to in the first place? IMO, that's
> > already
> > the case, and it's not even OSI yet.
> > 
> > I for one am not eager to see where this 'official' openEu goes as I listen
> > to all the sugarplum wishes.
> > 
> > I'm heavily considering whether I would even bother to get re-involved with
> > the eu community to work on openEu as my efforts and ideas were never
> > appreciated
> > in the past anyways and I'm tired of defending myself. Not much incentive to
> > contribute anymore.
> > 
> > 
> > ~ The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little extra ~
> 
> Chris,
> 
> I'm well aware of your position towards Euphoria and RDS. I'm very suprized
> that you even decided to participate on this mailing list again after your
> furious
> exit.
> 
> I think we all know that Robert's reason behind doing this was to speed up
> development
> and encourage people to implement exciting new features in his official
> language.
> I think Robert considers forking and fragementation an ugly side-effect of
> such
> a move but confident that his version will remain dominate. I am, however, not
> so confident that he'd be right once all our influential coders leave to
> launch
> their own projects.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Vincent

If someone were to fork Eu, either their version would be compatible with
official Eu so they could gain the benefits of the existing community and
codebase, or else their version will be incompatible, in which case it's not
really competition, is it?

If the fork is compatible, then much of the code produced for that version will
also work with the official version, thus the offical Eu will benefit from an
expanded community as well.

Many of those forks can try more radical things, which may prove to be worth
incorperating into the official version.

Forks would attract more attention and create curiosity around the official
version that those forks are modelled on. Don't you think people will wonder
where the forks are coming from and why?

Maybe one or two of the forks do manage to take off. Is that so bad?
I highly doubt that Euphoria would be affected by it, other than benefit.
Afterall, we have how many existing programming languages and still people not
only use Euphoria but are willing to pay for it, even if it is free. There will
always be people who are satified with Rob's version.

Alot of people will choose to use the offical version simply because it's more
reputable and has an existing history and codebase already.

~ The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little extra ~