Re: My View on the License issues (PD only..here's why)

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Hi there Ray,


Ray Smith wrote:
> 
> Al Getz wrote:
> > You've stated what you think is the best option but havent shown
> > any reasoning behind your opinion.  If someone thinks that someday
> > maybe they might make some money with a closed version and they 
> > actually do sell it and people like it and buy it that certainly
> > looks like survival to me.
> 
> It's survial of a closed source version of Euphoria ... is that 
> what you want?
> 
  As long as there is still an Open version of Eu too i dont mind
  at all.  People could build closed versions and work on the
  open version too if they wanted too.

>  
> > I'd like to create my own version too, although it would be
> > significantly different than Euphoria.  I'd like to be able to
> > start with the Open Source Euphoria though and keep it closed
> > for a while at least.  Now the licence can either help me get
> > a head start or i have to start from scratch...either way i get
> > my own closed version regardless of what license is selected.
> 
> If it is "that different" start from scratch.
> How would your work help the Euphoria community?
> It won't!!!
> 
  Because Eu people might want to use it too.  If they dont
  then that's ok too, as it certainly doesnt 'hurt' Eu.


> If 2 or more people start trying to make new closed source versions of 
> Euphoria .. it won't help anyone.
> They will be working against each other instead of with each other!!!
> lets work together :)
> 
  I dont agree, but a joint effort sure would be cool too!
  I'm all for it.  I see some problems though, such as agreeing
  on what to put in and what to keep out.  Case in point: goto.
  There are two schools of thought on this, which i can only 
  explain by saying that the goto issue is multidimensional...
  the is no one single answer to this.  The basic argument is:
  1.  If you allow goto then you allow beginners to use it and
      possibly not learn more structured programming.
  2.  If you dont allow it you cant jump out of complex loops easily.
  So here we have the first fork in the road: include goto's or not?
  It doesnt work to bind two different versions either...it's either
  go or no go.  So which is it?
  Idea: goto with a warning issued? "warning, you've used a goto" ha ha.
  Better than nothing i suppose.

> 
> > So does it help to select a too restrictive license?  It doesnt
> > help me and it doesnt help Euphoria.  
> 
> Yes it does help the Euphoria community!!!!
> It forces everyone to share Euphoria with everyone else.
> 
  Yeah but what about the people who dont want to be 'forced'
  to do anything with the code they spend a long time working on?
  Open Source should be just that.  If the industry shows anything
  most people will open theirs at some point anyway, so i say
  leave it for them to decide.  Not only that, when they do then
  they really feel like they've given something...rather than 
  having it stolen from them in a manner of speaking.

> Regards,
> 
> Ray Smith
> <a href="http://RaymondSmith.com">http://RaymondSmith.com</a>



Take care,
Al

E boa sorte com sua programacao Euphoria!


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