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[GEN] Re: POLL: Split the List?

• Posted by Dan B Moyer <DANMOYER at PRODIGY.NET> Oct 12, 2000
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Bernie,

I'm really conflicted on this issue.  You, and Jiri (and probably Wolfgang?)
(and possibly a substantial number of others?) would apparently like to see
much fewer posts here relating to the *details* of the development of
Windows stuff.

I have two concerns about this:

1.  I can see your point, *and* I (also) don't want to piss off some of the
best programmers on the list, both because it's just not my style/nature,
and because I am, to be painfully honest, not very good at programming &
need all the help I can get (& pissing off the best obviously isn't a good
way to go about getting that help); so with these in mind, I would be
inclined to simply take your advice, and refrain from posting questions /
bug reports / suggestions about the development of the IDE and Win32Lib
*here*, and send such privately to the relevant developer(s);

2.  However, a number of factors suggest otherwise:
 a)  Judith and I have both received private mail *requesting* keeping the
IDE design *details* public, so that others can both *follow* the direction
of its design, and offer comments relating to *guiding* that direction;
 b)  some on the list have indicated that they *appreciate* seeing the
detail of the development of the IDE, because it shows them that it's being
worked on seriously ("...Judith sounds like she's picking at every damn
thing, which is very good to see someone beating away at it.");
 c)  when the details of the development of the IDE (or any other project)
are public, problems which come up may be read by a wider audience, and
*solutions* offered from that wider audience which might not have occurred
(or occurred as quickly) to the coder themselve(s), which is a good thing,
and not outside the fundamental purpose of the list.

The above two concerns seem to me to be entirely (and equally) valid; my
support for the suggestion to separate the list was just an effort to
attempt to reconcile *both* of them.  I would welcome any  better suggestion
for reconciling *both* concerns, or arguments which negate my second
concern.

Dan
(who wants to do the right thing)

P.S.
sent to the list instead of private due to concern 2c


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernie" <xotron at PCOM.NET>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: POLL: Split the List?


> On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:01:37 +0930, Mark Brown <mabrown at SENET.COM.AU>
wrote:
>
> >Hi Dan
> >
> >I vote a big NO WAY to splitting up the list.
>
>
>   I also vote a big NO WAY to splitting up the list.
>
>   When david was working on the win32lib he didn't post to the list
>   every time he change a line of code or came up with a different way
>   of displaying a control. I am sure that david used a lot of private
>   e-mail to design the win32lib and did not fill the list with unnessary
>   details.
>
>   A another list is not necessary, only send your details to the
developers
>   of win32lib by private e-mail so the new users and old users can use
>   the list to ask for help, and discuss other general topics including
>   windows.
>
>   Bernie