Re: the fate of a euphorian
- Posted by Jiri Babor <J.Babor at GNS.CRI.NZ> Oct 11, 2000
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Mic wrote: >It just struck me that I haven't heard/seen anything from the >following ppl in a (very) long time: > >Ralf N, Jacques D, Lucius H, Mark Honnor, Michael Bolin & some >others.. > >So my question is, what happened to these guys? Did all die in a >plane-crash or what? Or did they just decide to give up on euphoria >all the sudden? I do not think they all died. But I am sure some of them left to avoid death from boredom. In an attempt to generate a bit of excitement, I'll tell you why I think this forum is getting less attractive every day. In summary, it's probably just these three things: Mike-the Spike, incessant window$ talk and general apparent lack of progress on Robert's part. In detail, I am not going to spend any time on misogynist Mike and his lavatory culture. His crude fantasies as well as his transparent lies can be simply filtered out. It's a bit more difficult with the Bill's mob. Last night, in quiet desperation, I went over the last hundred messages. Seventy-nine (79) of them related to some obscure aspect of Window$, significant, I suspect, only to Judith and Dan. Now, I am sure Judith is a very nice lady and Dan is most likely a perfect gentleman. But their obsession with countless quirks of a second rate operating system does not coincide with one of my hobbies, nor it is the official subject of this forum - Euphoria. Dan and Judith are not the only transgressors in this area, but I am not going to name anybody else - two or three new enemies a day is my current limit. The third one, Robert, is also tough, because, just like someone else said recently, I, too, would prefer to stay on his good side. But his progress with Euphoria has been painfully slow over the last couple of years. Ok, we had the Linux version (still a forbidden garden for me, but I suspect not much more than a re-compilation with a little bit of tweaking plus some testing), EDS (was it just me who yawned so brazenly?), and lastly the translator/compiler - lots of expectations, but eventually even a bigger yawn. I know it's early days yet and it can only get better, but the signs are not good. The speed gains are not as great as everyone expected, the size of resulting executables is truly horrendous, and the initial compiler selection was not terribly inspirational either. (I think I'll save my meagre micro-economy fortune for the real McCoy, a native compiler...) The real issues have not been tackled. There are not that many of them currently on my list, just two: (1) more sophisticated namespace handling, and (2) better, smarter tools and/or structures for interfacing with the outside world. What do you say, Robert? Even your most faithful followers are getting increasingly restless. jiri