Re: techport80

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On 19 Sep 2002, at 19:11, jbrown105 at speedymail.org wrote:

> 
> On  0, Kat <kat at kogeijin.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks for posting the article on Java security.  Very informative. I 
> > > would like to point out a new key points about that article and that web
> > > page though.  Also I agree with you in the fact that newer isn't always
> > > better.  Further, I would like to state that JavaScript is used sparingly
> > > on
> > > my website and that you can read anything on my site should you choose to
> > > turn JavaScript off.  
> > 
> > Strangely, turning it off, *if you can*, doesn't prevent your puter from
> > going
> > out to download the latest addons to the scripting languages, as i found out
> > the hard way a few months ago. They are downloaded, even if you had checked
> > Do
> > Not Run, in case you might want to run them later. The badly botched
> > auto-install deleted/corrupted needed files for IE and Explorer. I am still
> > missing the proper icon for IE, but that's no problem.
> > 
> 
> Ah, the joys of Linux and Opera smile
> 
> > > JavaScript is safe.  There is very little you can do with 
> > > JavaScript, as a standalone tool, that is not what it was intended to 
> > > do.  When combined with other tools, JavaScript poses a little more of a
> > > risk, but that risk is minimal.  
> > 
> > I lost a computer to javascript. The bios was written to, and was not 
> > recoverable or replaceable. The harddrive was corrupted, and i lost a lot of
> > material. Javascript is used for redirects, windows that can't be closed,
> > etc
> > etc.
> > 
> 
> Its hard to believe thats possible. I dont see how javascript can
> corrupt
> a filesystem, or overwrite a BIOS!! What browser and what version and
> which
> site was this?

See:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,104910,00.asp

That url mentions the Java bug (from win95 - winXP), the bug in DOM that 
allows javascript to remote admin the puter, and you'll see a link to the Back 
Orfice (er,, office,, umm, "help and support") bug in XP, and a link to the 
page about the XP SP1 causing XP to nuke itself.

Kat

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