Re: Damien Version 0.05a -- New Upgrade
- Posted by Kat <KSMiTH at PELL.NET> Nov 21, 1999
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----- Original Message ----- From: Irv Mullins <irv at ELLIJAY.COM> To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 12:34 PM Subject: Re: Damien Version 0.05a -- New Upgrade > From: Everett Williams <rett at GVTC.COM> > Subject: Re: Damien Version 0.05a -- New Upgrade > > > > Gary Dumer wrote: > > > > >While I certainly admit that writing the graphical controls using only > > >Euphoria is a daunting task... I surely DON'T agree that writing the IDE > is > > >any easier for David than it is for me. After all, Damien is also written > > >entirely in Euphoria, using VEL as the graphical tool, just as David uses > > >Win32Lib as his tool. > > > > And which one did the priest bless? I think that the difference here is > only > > that of writing to a "native" interface not requiring any non-Euphoria > > deliverables. > <snip> > > Both efforts are outstanding pieces of work that can only > > broaden the use of Euphoria. The existence of a powerful IDE of whatever > > heritage is one of those preconditions for the real growth of Euphoria use > > in the business community. My thanks to anyone willing to attempt such > > a herculean task. > > I certainly agree, and appreciate anyone's effort in this direction. > I must point out, however, a major difference between the two approaches > that affects the user: > Dave's code (Win32Lib) is written in Euphoria. When a program bombs, I get > an ex.err file describing the problem. If it's my code, fine. If the problem > lies in Dave's code, I can still find and fix it. Vel errors tend to be the > altogether meaningless Windows error: Access Violation at 4C249592 caused by > win32.dll attempt to write to 003300CF (or whatever). Fixing these is > beyond my ability. That's a windoze error, unless someone has locked some memory that windoze doesn't know about,, or they *think* they locked the memory. Either way, it could still be in the Eu portion of the code. Both approaches rely on windoze calls. Kat