Re: Re[4]: Euphoria CGI Success
Vincent wrote:
>
> akusaya wrote:
> >
<snip>
> > Yes I know Eu is very fast compared to PHP. However that is not what
> > we need for websites. Moreover, who wants to use PHP for doing sieve?
> > If sieve were really needed, one could use C and call the sieve
> > function from Eu or PHP and that will be faster.
>
> Yes. Euphoria is much faster than PHP across the board. I don't know why
> Robert
> compares Eu to PHP using Sieve, but we'll get a better idea as to exactly how
> fast Euphoria is in comparison to other languages once Jason finishes his
> language
> shootout benchmarks and tests them.
Yeah, that's on my to-do list. I'm kind of working on ESL right now, though (see
below). I'll probably bounce around between projects like that but it is better
than not coding at all...
>
> > One more thing is, how if 100 users request the same page at one time
> > period (which is typical for a website). Wouldn't there be 100 exu
> > processes running simultaneously? How about the startup time?
> >
> > OK, I tested the exu runtime from my webhosting server.
> >
> > date>tgl; for((i=0;i<100;i++)); do echo a|./ex examliat.ex ; done;
> > date>>tgl
> > cat tgl
> >
> > output:
> > Tue Feb 14 14:28:25 GMT 2006
> > Tue Feb 14 14:28:29 GMT 2006
> >
> > It needs 4 seconds to run. It is Eu 2.4. I havent tried Eu 2.5. Hope
> > it is not too bad.
>
> Get Euphoria 2.5 and try running it with 10,000 requests to view the page at
> the same time. That is a typical high traffic page. Then perhaps after that,
> try 10,000,000 requests at the same time. That is typical for sites like
> Yahoo,
> MSN, Google, etc.
It really comes down to the proper tool for the job. PHP was designed for the
web, and I think Google uses a lot of Python. Plus those companies have massive
clusters and server farms with load balancing and all that kind of stuff that is
way above *my* head. But then again, *most* web/networking stuff is way above my
head. 
> > Couldn't you just say that Eu is not really suited for serving
> > webpages? (no offense)
>
> Euphoria is fine for CGI. It isn't as good as Perl or PHP, but that is mostly
> because of the lack of complete CGI support libraries. Hopefully that will
> change
> with the ESL project.
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ESL project. Yeah. I'm kind of working on stuff, basically filesys.e right now
and maybe seqops.e (sequence operations) in the near future. I don't think ESL
has any specifications for CGI-type stuff and I certainly don't know anything
about it. So, I don't know.
If it wasn't for Jeremy Peterson I think the ESL project would be about dead.
I'm taking his code as a basic blueprint and re-creating it to fit my own ideas.
Hopefully the rest of the team will accept my code once I release it, or else
I'll just release it on its own.
--
"Any programming problem can be solved by adding a level of indirection."
--anonymous
"Any performance problem can be solved by removing a level of indirection."
--M. Haertel
j.
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