Re: win98/EUServer

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Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen wrote:
>>However, as mentioned, ralf does use win98, and i'm almost
>>certain he has tried EUServer on that OS and if it had _not_
>>worked, i'm *very* certain ralf woulda lemme know, in that
>>ever so unique way => he uses to inform me of all my oversights :)
> Yes, EUServer works fine with win98 and hawke, what is this ?
> This is like the third time, you say something in such direction.
> It really bothers you, doesnt it ?

Firstly, note the smilies. The smilie is generally accepted
to indicate jesting and humor, often with the attached
connotation of good will and feelings.

Secondly, the reason I keep pointing out your unique mannerisms
in regard to pointing out people's flaws/coding errors, is
NOT because the act bothers me.  I learn, as others, from this
list, and in receiving feedback/bug reports.  This feedback
allows everyone to grow, and hopefully, not make the same
mistake twice, nor a mistake that another has made.
The *act* is fine, even commendable.  That you would take
time to help others grow is noble.

I keep referencing the *act*, but now I will reference the
*execution* of said act. This is the reason for my making the
statements about your unique mannerisms, in what I had hoped
would be received in a non-confrontational manner, and instead,
received in a spirit of mutual growth.

Up till this point, I've been trying, and apparently failing,
to use subtlety, and gentle jesting, to casually inform you
in a friendly manner, that you can be harsh in your posts,
especially in your posts that correct anothers mistake(s).

Granted: you are using a language for communication that is
not your native tongue.  However, many of us on this list
have been trying to bestow upon you the gift and knowledge
of how to phrase your replies/posts, in this language
you are learning, with decorum and tact.

Having this knowledge of decorum phraseology in another
tongue is the first step towards the creation of posts
and replies, in this non-native tongue, that have
little chance of offending.

I know of no one that *likes* to told they screwed up.

Most like it even less when the informer of said FUBAR'ing
is less than delicate when they are informing the informee.

I know of several that are big enough to grow from it,
especially if the pointing out of the flaw was done with
sensitivity to the informee's feelings.

So, yes, in one way it bothers me a great deal to watch
(and even be the informee myself) when someone errs and
the post that divulges that oversight is sharply phrased.

And, no, it does not bother me to be informed of my
oversights, if that is done with what i can discern
as an attempt at graceful diatribe proffered in the
spirit of growth and fellowship.

I'm sure your intentions are most honorable, as just the
simple fact that you do take the time to help/find errors
and even real time debug (thanks again for popping in
the server that day... it did help, and was part of the
reason i managed to find what i'm lovingly calling the
Kevin bug now :) which is when u have more that one
user and anyone quits, the server crashed... geez, what
a FUBAR I wrote that time, eh?) and just taking that
time shows the honorable intentions.

What myself and others are simply trying to help you with, is
your implementation of said noble and _appreciated_ intentions.

take care, and care of, indeed.
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