Re: Editor Developers.....Do Something

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I'm always on the lookout for a UPS for the exact reasons that Kat
mentions.  I'm hoping to trip over a "spare one" in my travels - trouble is
they are rather heavy - you can't really tuck one under your coat if you
see what I mean smile

I have a surge protector on the mains socket for my main computer to try
and iron out spikes.  That said in major towns and cities in the UK the
electricity supply is pretty stable.  Maybe because we run at 240 volts
instead of 110/120?  I couldn't comment.

As for backups I have an old Pentium 100 running Linux RedHat 5.1 with ftp
access setup.  On my Windows machine I have a little BAT file that builds
ZIP files of my important data/document directories and then ftp's these
ZIP's to the Linux box.

If you have a second computer (no matter how "slow") use it to backup your
data/document directories from your main computer on a regular basis.

Even better if you have a CD-RW use that for backups and store them at a
friends house.

Failing that I once heard (although it's probably an urban myth) that once
upon a time Linus Torvalds backed up his "important" files by FTP'ing them
to a public FTP server!  If you have web space available from your ISP then
this could be another method of "backup" but I wouldn't rely on it solely.
Then again if your currently doing no backups at all then it would be
better than nothing.

In desparation you could resort to floppy disks but make two copies.
Floppies don't like dust or fluctuations in heat/humidity and do go bad.

Here endeth the backup lesson smile

Regards,

Andy Cranston.

At 15:44 25/03/02 -0600, you wrote:
>
>On 25 Mar 2002, at 21:55, tone.skoda at siol.net wrote:
>
>> 
>> That's why I keep pressing CTRL+s. Get used to it.
>
>You still need a UPS with surge protection. Getting a power failure in the 
>middle of a save can trash the disk. Especially backup-and-save operations, 
>when the drive may still have the physical files open in cache, not on the 
>platters, so you'll lose the old file and the new one. Or the OS may have
it in 
>swap space. Getting power loss during a defrag is even worse. I save often 
>too, my hds never get a chance to power down. Like Chris said, some UPSs 
>come with a program for windows that will send a save-and-quit msg to all 
>open apps, and then tell windows itself to shut down. I don't have that 
>installed, but then i was up 10hrs once during a power outage. Car battery, 
>get used to it.
>
>Maybe it's the olde timers who stress this the most, because long ago in the 
>days of the early computers (15 yrs ago), saving a 1 meg file might take a 
>few minutes, greater chance of crashes happening. But back then the OSs 
>were sturdier too.
>
>Kat
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kat" <gertie at PELL.NET>
>> To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 5:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: Editor Developers.....Do Something
>> 
>> 
>> > On 25 Mar 2002, at 12:54, jordah ferguson wrote:
>> > <snip>
>> >
>> > >  This is a notice and humble request to all programmers out there
>> > > developing windows editors. PLEASE,
>> > > I REPEAT PLEASE....Add Autosave option to your editors in their next
>> > > releases. Lazy freaks like me who
>> > > get buried in programming and don't usually save, get really
frustrated when
>> > > all our work is lost due to power failure.
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> >
>> > You should REALLY REALLY use a UPS with a surge protector in it. Eu is
>> > useless to you if the hardware gets fried. They are in the ballpark of
>> > $100USD, and are the cheapest, most cost effective insurance you can
>> > have. They have saved my electronics and my programming code WAY too
>> > many times to count. Proper computer use is to plug it into a UPS when
you get
>> > the computer home, install a firewall, and *only then* do you go
>> online.
>> >
>> > Besides, it makes the neighbors wonder about you when the power for the
>> > whole county goes out, and your sterio didn't skip a note. blink
>> >
>> > And save things when you make a significant or difficult or Eureka!
change
>> to
>> > any code. Mycode1.e, mycode2.e, mycode3.e, etc.
>> >
>> > Kat
>> >
>> >
>
>
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