Re: Can't compile DOS program with long file name
Igor Kachan wrote:
> Juergen Luethje wrote:
>>
>> Igor Kachan wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Hi Rob,
>>>
>>> The #2 may lead to restrictions about functionality of EU at all,
>>> wait please not just a second here, but 2 seconds at least.
>>> The DOS32 EU is the most complete Ephoria - the classic EU, so to say.
>>> It deserves to be supported forever, I think.
>>> ---
>>
>> After thinking more about it, I agree with you and Vincent that people
>> who want to compile a Euphoria DOS program should not be forced to use
>> Windows in order to do so. So the DOS compiler should be a pure DOS
>> program.
>>
>>> Hi Juergen,
>>>
>>> I think, renameing of an input file for ec.exe is an excellent
>>> workaround for this issue, maybe, just document this issue better?
>>
>> Yes, I was surprised when I realized the issue, because I hadn't read
>> about it in the Euphoria documentation. (Maybe it is not documented?)
>>
>> Renaming of an input file _sometimes_ can be a workaround. Sometimes
>> this won't help much, because the problem does not only affect the
>> program file which we want to compile, but _also included files_, as I
>> mentioned previously.
>> And I certainly _never_ would consider it "excellent", when I'm forced
>> to rename files because of this unnecessary issue.
>
> Ok, it is not *too* excellent, it is just *almost* excellent.
> It is just not that bad, I think now.
I'm glad that it is fine for you. However, that does not change the fact
that it is everything else but excellent for me (as I wrote previously).
> I know that German language does allow very and very long
> combined words, it is just a champion language about long
> words, but me myself can not say something like to
> 'ethyloxyethylparaphenilendiaminsulphate' without 5 breakes
> in the middle of this not too long word. 
It does not matter whether or not I (or other Germans) can say so or not.
I'm 48 years old, an not too silly. So rest assure that I know myself
very well how to name my files properly.
>> Since I always try to write code in include files as generic and
>> cross-platform as possible, your suggestion means that I would have to
>> rename all my .e library files, so that they only use old DOS 8.3 names.
>
> Yes, if you want these libs to work on pure DOS, you have to
> name them as 8.3.
Yes. But not if I use them in a DOS window on Windows. And it is _my_
decision what I want to do, not yours or anyone else's.
> The Watcom compiler cares about pure DOS.
> This Open Watcom supports 16 bit DOS too.
>
>> Just last week at work, I had to search for some old files (about 10
>> years old) on CD, which all had 8.3 DOS names. It was a pain! I am very
>> happy that we now can use more characters in order to give the files
>> more meaningful names. I don't understand why I deliberately should want
>> to do without it.
>
> What to do, it is just that old good time of PC, PC XT, PC AT etc.
I just was trying to say that using these old 8.3 names is a pain for me.
You are not able or not willing to understand that.
>> And it should be easy for Rob to fix it. Just compiling ec.ex with DJGPP
>> instead of Watcom probably should do the trick, see:
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> Ok, it is the end of your single word, Juergen ...
Mmm? What does "end of your single word" mean?
> I see now what you do like to see ...
I have said all the time clearly what I like to see:
A Euphoria DOS compiler that can handle files with long names when run in
a DOS window on Windows (because on plain DOS it is not possible at all).
And in the meantime I have learned that introducing long file names was
a great mistake, because it was the end of the "old good time".
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Regards,
Juergen
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