Re: Fair Criticism
- Posted by gertie at ad-tek.net Aug 11, 2001
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On 10 Aug 2001, at 18:17, Robert Craig wrote: > > > > I'd never even heard of it before, and I'm a language slut. This > > suggests to me that the user community is very small, and when the > > author gets tired of it the language will die. > > The user community has been growing steadily for years. > This mailing list has gone from 250 to 360 in the past 6 months. > I started designing Euphoria 12 years ago, and I'm working on it > full-time. The source will soon be (mostly) available. > > > It's commercial and proprietary (it's cheap, but it still costs), > > which IMO are acceptable for applications but extraordinarily bad ideas > > for basic infrastructure like a programming language. > > Microsoft seems to be doing pretty well peddling C++, Visual Basic, > various operating systems, and other "basic infrastructure". > > If a programmer can improve his productivity by 10%, > why on earth would he not spend $39, or even $3900 in doing so? Well, for some people who make $39 a month, $3900 would seem like a lot of money, it sure seems like a lot to me. > > It's not object-oriented, and doesn't even have structs. This is > > the real show-stopper. Without this capability, it's going to be a > > nightmare to write code using complex data structures. > > My worst nightmares by far have occurred while programming > complex, dynamic, flexible data structures in C/C++, mallocing and > freeing every step of the way with tremendous opportunities > for hideous bugs. In Euphoria it's a breeze. I *much* prefer the Eu way of free-form structures. This leaves it up to me what i want to put in "fields". In Pascal, i used a lot of variant fields, and was constrained by the rule of only one variant and it had to be at the end of a pre-declared fixed record. What would make arrays/records as complex as C++ or pascal, but far more versatile, will be if/when Rob (or someone) adds the runtime var naming, like mirc. Kat