Re: Fair Criticism
- Posted by gertie at ad-tek.net
Aug 11, 2001
On 10 Aug 2001, at 18:17, Robert Craig wrote:
> >
> > I'd never even heard of it before, and I'm a language slut. This
> > suggests to me that the user community is very small, and when the
> > author gets tired of it the language will die.
>
> The user community has been growing steadily for years.
> This mailing list has gone from 250 to 360 in the past 6 months.
> I started designing Euphoria 12 years ago, and I'm working on it
> full-time. The source will soon be (mostly) available.
>
> > It's commercial and proprietary (it's cheap, but it still costs),
> > which IMO are acceptable for applications but extraordinarily bad ideas
> > for basic infrastructure like a programming language.
>
> Microsoft seems to be doing pretty well peddling C++, Visual Basic,
> various operating systems, and other "basic infrastructure".
>
> If a programmer can improve his productivity by 10%,
> why on earth would he not spend $39, or even $3900 in doing so?
Well, for some people who make $39 a month, $3900 would seem like a lot of
money,
it sure seems like a lot to me.
> > It's not object-oriented, and doesn't even have structs. This is
> > the real show-stopper. Without this capability, it's going to be a
> > nightmare to write code using complex data structures.
>
> My worst nightmares by far have occurred while programming
> complex, dynamic, flexible data structures in C/C++, mallocing and
> freeing every step of the way with tremendous opportunities
> for hideous bugs. In Euphoria it's a breeze.
I *much* prefer the Eu way of free-form structures. This leaves it up to me what
i want
to put in "fields". In Pascal, i used a lot of variant fields, and was
constrained by the
rule of only one variant and it had to be at the end of a pre-declared fixed
record. What
would make arrays/records as complex as C++ or pascal, but far more versatile,
will
be if/when Rob (or someone) adds the runtime var naming, like mirc.
Kat
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