OpenEuphoria

Re: missing posts???

• Posted by jluethje at gmx.de Jun 02, 2002
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Hello Ray,

I think my previous mail was somewhat imprecise. When I replied to you,
I also had in mind, what some others wrote about this topic. You could
not know that, of course, because I didn't write it.

> Hi Juergen,

> jluethje at gmx.de wrote:
>> I personally would *not* like to have several mailing lists instead of 
>> one.

> I propose 3.

>> I agree: it will be the same as now ... just from 3 different lists.
>> So, where will be the advantage? 

> There are two advatages that I see to splitting the list as I proposed:

> 1.  An announce list will keep everyone up to date on current 
> developments within Euphoria.  I'm sure there are many Euphoria users
> who don't have the time or enegry to sift through dozens of emails
> daily to read the few interesting weekly announcements.

> 2.  New users are very intimidated by the high number, in depth and 
> often complex emails that are sent through the list.  The aim is to 
> keep these types of emails in an advanced list and keep a newbie list
> more accessible with lower traffic.

I understand your arguments.

>> But if we have e.g. 3 lists, we probably will have threefold technical
>> problems and threefold mails complaining about them, threefold ads from
>> the list hosting companies, additional questions from newcomers like
>> "Hi, what is the proper list to ask the following question ..." and such
>> things.

> I would hope the 3 lists are all from the one list server.

OK, only 3 lists from the same list server will be easily manageable,
I think.

> I don't see how we would end up recieving more adds??
> In nearly all cases any technical problems will effect all 3 lists.

I thought of the scenario, that several unofficial list were set up on
*different* servers.
Now I get not too few mails with "TopOffers" from TopOffers at Topica.com,
and I have no additional need for "BestOffers" from BestOffers at Bestica.com
and "NiceOffers" from NiceOffers at Nitica.com .  
That's what I meant.

> I don't see much confusion about which list to post questions to.
> If you have just started using Euphoria or have a simple question
> use the newbie list. If you have been using Euphoria for a reasonable
> amount of time and start asking more complex questions it isn't 
> difficult to suggest that person join the advanced list. 
 
>> I'd prefer something else:
>> We could define several areas, such as "General", "Win32Lib", 
>> "Internet",
>> "Annoucments" etc., and then add the appropriate name to the subject of
>> our mail, maybe enclosed in [ ].

> We actually discussed this exact standard about a year ago I think ...
> and it lasted less than a week. At the time I was all for it ... and
> the only reason I think it didn't work is because people are lazy!
> (I put myself deep into this category!).
> It's a good idea but in practice it fails.

I see now. That was before I discovered Euphoria, and I only knew the
theory.

> With the number and complexity of emails on the current list I 
> believe the time has come for the list to be split.

> Do any of the list ops have stats on the number of people you join the
> list and leave within a short period of time???
> I have no idea ... all I know is some comments have been made about 
> the exact points I have described.  

> As for list servers ... Topica is as good and bad as any others I have
> seen. I have no problems with having 3 lists here.

With no more than 3 lists, all from the same server, I'll have no
problem, too.

> Regards,

> Ray Smith
> http://rays-web.com

Best regards,
   Juergen