OpenEuphoria

RE: New Install Program

• Posted by bensler at mail.com Feb 24, 2002
• 427 views

euman at bellsouth.net wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Cuny" <dcuny at LANSET.COM>
> 
> Euman wrote:
> 
> >> This coming from someone who's re-inventing WX-Windows... 
> 
> >Sorry, I'm missing something here. What am I "re-inventing"? I'm 
> >actually 
> >looking at wxWindows because I *don't* have to create a cross-platform 
> >toolkit from scratch in Euphoria. I readily admit that spending months 
> >of 
> >time on Llama and company was a complete waste of time, when I could 
> >have 
> >used wxWindows instead.
> 
> >In contrast, what benefit is there to writing a Euphoria installer? 
> 
> Exactly ! "what benefit" thats a question that remains unanswered.
> 
> >It doesn't invent anything new, it just recreates something that already 
> >exists. 
> >That's what I mean by reinventing the wheel.
> 
> Exactly ! "doesn't invent anything new" but to Euphoria it would be NEW.
> 
> >> I think it sucks and leans toward the attitude of half-A**ing somthing.
> 
> >Inno Setup certainly isn't a half-assed program, 
> 
> I never said that INNO was a half-assed program, did I?
> 
> "attitude of half-A**ing" I think we've already touched that base
> with the discussions that computer AI isnt very good.
> 
> >so I'm not sure what sort of 
> >'somthing' you're referring to. Besides, it *does* execute Euphoria code 
> >as 
> >part of the install, it's just hidden from the user.
> 
> Why hide it in another language?
> This just brings me back to "Euphoria considered a toy" theory
> 
> >I just don't see this as an issue.
> 
> I do...
> 
> -- David Cuny
> 
> Euman

Why bother supporting dll's and C integration in Euphoria? How come we 
need to use ASM and/or machine code sometimes? That's not native 
Euphoria, it must not be a very good language if we have to use 
extensions.
Why isn't your OS written in EU?

The fact is, it CAN be done in euphoria, it's just not practical.

I'm not about to rewrite DirectX, I doubt I will ever even attempt to 
make the COM wrappers for it. I don't know if anyone should, OpenGL is 
probably a better solution (still not EU).

David makes good points.
I think it would certainly be better if the installer were written in 
EU, but not too many people care. Noone is going to reconsider EU 
because it uses a utility written in another language or not.

If you want to write an installer that fulfills all the requirements, 
and meets up to one written using INNO setup, and is FULLY tested, by 
all means, I'll support you. I believe Rob already expressed similar 
sentiments. In the meantime, INNO setup is a good alternative.

Chris