nicer Install? (Was: RE: GOTO - A fresh perspective?)

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void wrote:
> Btw. popularity is something that could be greatly improved by making it
> more accessable for beginners, f.i. after install people want to see an 
> easy
> and friendly user interface.

Actually, this is something that I think might need some work. I've 
given copies of Euphoria (along with PKUNZIP) to some of my high school 
students, and in most cases, they can't figure out how to begin the 
install.

Now, some might say that they shouldn't be trying to learn programming 
if they can't handle that little ordeal, but I think that's not quite 
fair. Unfortunately (IMVHO) we live in a Windows world, and most kids 
don't know DOS. They've never heard of PKUNZIP, decompression is 
transparently done for them. That's their world, and while I believe 
they can learn to program right where they're at, I think having to jump 
through unfamiliar hoops limits them.

A Windows-style installer sounds like a good idea. Not that Rob 
necessarily needs to do it, if someone else can. It would help alot, at 
least to the newbies in the programming realm (we can't expect them all 
to jump in on their own.) As for an interface AFTER install... you're 
talking about something like the QBasic screen, interactive? Hmmm, a 
good idea as a seperate program I think--possibly with newbies being 
asked if they want to jump to it after install. Perhaps something like 
what 'E!' tried to be, with more features, using some of the 
Eu-written-in-Eu code that's out there....

> And clear examples ("for dummies") for
> everything, from a simple "hello world" to creating and accessing DLL's.

Ah, that sounds like you're wanting a book, which is another good idea 
that maybe someone will write someday. If it could be included as text 
with Euphoria, that would be even better!


Rod Jackson

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