RE: GOTO - A fresh perspective?
Hi Euler,
I haven't been following the leadup to your message but has anyone
suggested the "Beginners Guide to Euphoria"?
It's a tutorial program that I have heard many good things about.
It's a little old now and probably doesn't have some of the new
language features. It's probably still worth looking at.
You can find it under Documentation on the archive at the RDS
web site.
With regard to "what Euphoria is?" and "What's Euphoria's future?"
... a have over the years posted many messages with similar content
and the end result is ... Euphoria IS a hobby language. A few (very
few) have produced commercial quality apps. These seem to be
very specialised. Saying that Euphoria can still be very useful but
that doesn't mean it's the best tool for alot of jobs. Also if your
deadicated enough you to can produce commercial quality apps.
It's a difficult road to travel though.
At some time in the future it "might" become easier to produce better
quality software ... easier ... as some of the major libraries mature
(win32lib, IDE etc).
Take and use Euphoria for what it is, not what it can be.
I'm sure everyone is interested in ideas that can increase the
use of Euphoria throughout the world.
As with many many "internet" based projects the onus is on "you" to do
what others haven't.
I too would love heaps more people programming in Euphoria but in the
end you have to be happy with what it can do for you now. You have
to be happy for what Euphoria is now. If your not happy with that
then Euphoria is not for you.
Change in the world of Euphoria is very slow. A year can go by with
no changes to base Euphoria interpreter.
Saying all that, I always seem to come back to tinker with my Euphoria
projects so I guess I must enjoy it.
Take Care,
Ray Smith
> This is terrible, I'm afraid. I'm quite confident that Euphoria will be
> on
> limbo while languages it can surpass easily, by any means, will last.
> I'm not
> sure if it's of RDS interest but if they *truly* believe in their
> product they
> should put some money on it. An unknown product is a dead product. How
> could I
> manage to (learn) teach Euphoria to others without books? Another
> question:
> what will last after all of you get your own copy of Euphoria? Will RDS
> just
> shut doors or would they last with a 50% income now and then? I just
> can't
> accept that. Let me put this way: RDS need to make a big move. They must
> turn
> Euphoria into a popular language. They have to convince someone with the
>
> ability and skills to spread the word as it is not of their business to
> spred
> the word. Unfortunately, hundreds of thousands users aren't enough in a
> world
> that counts in billions.
>
> > Someone could post a book on the internet, so that you could print your
> > own
> > copy, but then they would be doing a lot of work for free, so I don't
> > think
> > that's going to happen either.
> >
> Well, could be an e-book, a lot cheaper than on paper. Could be done at
> home by
> anyone with knowledge and writing skills. It could be made in PDF
> protected
> mode and selled by the Net. I don't mind the media: paper or e-paper (I
> can
> print it later), but I believe that information, to be valuable and
> understandable, at least to the great majority of persons, must be
> compiled as
> a book, not on information chunks.
>
> I'm not talking on freework either. I'm ready to pay for it. I know that
> you
> and others that are not newcomers like me don't need this, but you
> should
> consider very much that you're quite alone. You have the knowledge but
> don't
> have number. Without a minimum amount there will be no change, not
> enough
> *mass* to sustain a chain reaction. This may change from euphoria to
> entropy.
>
> Sorry if I'm so pessimist. Maybe I'm just on a bad day.
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> -- Euler German
>
>
Ray Smith
http://www.geocities.com/ray_223
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