OpenEuphoria

Re: Jiri Babor .. x!

• Posted by David Cuny <dcuny at LANSET.COM> Feb 05, 2002
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jiri wrote:

> The main problem was that David Cuny poured a lot of 
> really cold water all over [x].

I certainly don't want to discourage jiri from developing x, I did present 
reasons why I didn't think many people would latch onto x. But I tend to be 
pretty conservative about programming language features, despite my continued 
admiration for Python's functional indentation.


> David researches his projects reasonably well, decides on a
> formula, establishes a proper framework and then sticks to it, no
> matter what, with just an occasional glance in the direction of the
> market.

I'm actually a lot more market driven than jiri lets on - if I don't think 
that anyone is likely to use a toolkit (or that a better one exists), I'll 
promptly drop the project.

But he's right about research - if someone's already done the work, it's nice 
to be able to grab it. I still have a faciniation for "do it yourself" 
widgets, but I don't think I'll ever code a Dos32Lib sort of project - not 
when there are excellent, free toolkits out there for grabbing.

I got a bit burned out by not being able to easily link Euphoria to C 
libraries. That meant that a lot of stuff had to be written from scratch.

Even with the Euphoria source available, it's not entirely trivial to add 
another library to Euphoria. In a lot of ways, the release of the Euphoria 
source is like the release of exw - it's certainly possible to extend 
Euphoria, but that certainly doesn't mean that it's easy. I'll grant that 
it's only the initial release, but there's no detailed documentation on the 
inner workings of Euphoria. So it's up to each individual to spelunk through 
the code. I haven't seen much discussion on the forum from people that are 
actually making changes to the code.

I hate to sound so dour about this... For example, I really would like to 
extend Euphoria with wxWindows, but I don't think I have the patience or the 
enthusiasm for the project - spending my day struggling against a C compiler 
isn't my idea of fun. If anyone who has the Euphoria source is interested in 
helping with the project, drop me a line!

> And, of course, I simply lack David's discipline and appetite for work!)

I think jiri's the only person in the universe that would associate me with 
either discipline or work!

-- David Cuny