Re: VEL

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Robert Craig wrote:

> Here's what I know about the Dumer situation:
>
> His Web site crashed, causing him to lose a bunch of files,
> and become rather upset (naturally).
> Shortly thereafter, some mildy negative remarks were made
> about VEL on this mailing list. He took those remarks
> as a very serious indication that people would never
> accept VEL. He was very upset about it and asked
> (demanded) that we remove all of his files from the
> RDS site, and remove his entry on the "Other Sites" page.
> I tried to reason with him. The list server remarks appeared
> to me to be very mild. He disagreed. I held off reporting the
> situation to this list in the hope that he would calm down
> and reconsider the situation. I felt that an announcement
> on my part might make it harder for him to return.
>
> You may remember that Dumer quit VEL a few months ago,
> and RDS managed to get him to return. We had no luck this
> time.
>

*sigh* I've been following this situation for a while, and yes, some
comments on VEL were quite harsh, especially all the 'touchiness' over
using a piece of Delphi (correct me if i'm wrong) to help write VEL.

Sometimes, one has to go to other places to help write something for
Euphoria. And using straight Euphoria to make VEL can have its own
caveats to it too... altho I am not aware of any. (dependance on the
W32lib would be one)

<snip>

>
> Jon Banquer writes:
> > What greatly disturbs me is that RDS seems to have no
> > interest in building an IDE for Euphoria. I can't think of a
> > better way to enhance Euphoria's use than RDS handling
> > the base IDE.
>
> Several people have said that RDS should build an IDE.
> We are prepared to step in and fill that role if it
> becomes necessary, but for now we are very happy with
> the work that experts such as David Cuny have been doing
> in that area. RDS can't do it all. For now we are concentrating
> on the core, and encouraging others to add pieces to it.
>

<nod> It would be cool to see RDS coordinate an effort for Euphoria,
especially to use pieces of Eu that are hidden, that may improve speed
in itself.

But to 'depend' on the experts (David, Gary) would be a little harsh on
them, as life loves to do what it wants :)

I myself are looking to further myself into Euphoria, altho thanks to
school, many of my 'projects' are on hold till summer :(

And my thanks too to the information on the Dumer situation, helps with
the ease of wondering what everyone was freakin' out about :)

--"LEVIATHAN"

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