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Re: Mike, you are not a liar!

• Posted by Michael Nelson <mike-nelson-ODAAT at WORLDNET.ATT.NET> Feb 12, 2000
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Jiri,

You are also a man of integrity.  Thank you very much for your last post.

The very last word on optimization--with regard to my now infamous point #4,
after further reflection and additional benchmarking, I believe your
critcism is of my advocacy of short sequences is correct and I withdraw it
as general advice.  I was misled by the evidence that the approach does work
in the actual optimization I was faced with--a narrow domain involving
highly structured, non-random data with natural breakpoints.

-- Mike Nelson
-----Original Message-----
From: jiri babor <jbabor at PARADISE.NET.NZ>
To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Date: Saturday, February 12, 2000 6:08 AM
Subject: Mike, you are not a liar!


>Mike,
>
>On reflection, 'phony' was a terrible choice. 'Phantom' would have
>been
>much better, more neutral word, but if you prefer 'erroneous', I can
>live with that too.
>
>I did not call you a liar, and I did not want to imply you were one.
>Believe me, if I had any doubts about your integrity, your messages
>would not even reach my mailbox.
>
>You forced me to re-read my last note - not a pretty experience. I
>noticed one small section that can possibly be interpreted as an
>attack on OO (object oriented) programming principles. That's not what
>I meant. In fact I admire the Smalltalk people that started it all
>almost thirty years ago. They were real visionaries, unfortunately too
>much ahead of their time, because it's only now that reasonably pure
>and workable systems are appearing on the horizon (newer versions of
>Smalltalk, Eiffel, etc). And it still might take a decade, and two or
>three orders of magnitude faster PCs to realize the full potential of
>their ideas. And I am pretty sure it will not be the muddled atrocity
>of C++  or Java diarrhea that will rule the world. It's more likely to
>be a streamlined version of Python, or something similarly powerful
>and still reasonably accessible, or perhaps Eu v 5.0...
>
>Dreaming. jiri
>