Re: [OT]Where's everyone from? Contest
On 9 Aug 2004, at 21:39, Juergen Luethje wrote:
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> Kat wrote:
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> > On 9 Aug 2004, at 7:00, Juergen Luethje wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Kat wrote:
> >>
> >> <big snip>
> >>
> >>> In that case, don't ask for all the data.
> >>> =20
> >>> Kat,
> >>> getting a headache and wishing she wasn't so capable of doing things
> > that= =20
> >>> no one has a hairsplittingly precise use for. Like "i want all the data in
> >>> =
> >>> this=20 format (figuring you cannot alter the format), but since you have
> > all
> >>> the d= ata,=20 and i want only 50 lines, we cannot use it".
> >>
> >> OK, I will not ask you for those data again.
> >> There are many other possibilities to get those data, most of them look
> >> more promising anyhow.
> >
> > Heh. All you had to do was ask me. But you couldn't.
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> Hm..?? I couldn't ask you?? I *did* ask you.
You wrote:
Sorry, I don't know what a irc database is, and how to question it.
> > You said i should upload the entire database for you,
>
> No, I did *not* write that.
You wrote:
Maybe you can put it on your website, for download?
> > but then said you didn't need the whole
> > thing so nevermind. The form the data is in here is irrelavant. Which 50
> > cities i have data on is irrelavant as long as i have the 50 you need. You
> > were not serious about me supplying the data, you were just making excuses
> > about how to not involve me.
>
> I just wonder where you read all those "interesting" stuff. At least not
> in one of my previous posts, because I never wrote something like that.
> This is silly anyhow. Why should I want not to involve you in this
> discussion??? And *if* I actually had wanted to do so, I simply would
> not have replied to your post, rather than asking you questions.
You wrote:
For the beginning, I think it would be sufficient to have the information for
the
cities, where the people live, who replied in this (original) thread --
currently
about 50 cities.
I thought:
even if i did rent space on a server big enough to host the data, you wouldn't
use it, because it wasn't worth downloading it to get the 50 places you are
interested in. Sounds ok, but then, i have the data already, and you still
haven't asked me about those 50 places either.
> > I wasn't expecting this from *you*, Juergen, but i am
> > prepared for it from anyone now.
>
> Your expectation was correct, because I didn't do anything in order to
> "not involve you".
Except separate me from the data, which may not be all in one place and
premunged anymore.
> > Just consider this, i had most of this contest sewn up 4 years ago.
>
> So what? ... wait. Do you think I tried to exclude you from the contest,
> or what? Is that, what you are talking about?
Yes. Or simply by saying you wouldn't want to be part of a group that would
have me. I know how that works: once enough people have said it, i am out
of everything.
> The contest has not yet started, this is just a discussion about some
> *possible* tasks in a *possible* contest. And please consider, that any
> problem that has been solved on this list before the contest starts,
> cannot be part of the contest any more.
>
> And actually, I am not interested in (and don't have the power to do so)
> excluding you from anything.
Well, people have opinions about things, about who they will and won't work
with. Since people haven't worked with me on a project (only some small
tidbits of code) in 4 years, i figure they never will, so whatever i say on the
list is immaterial. It's getting to be like real life, no job in 20 years as of
the
end of this year.
> > But you are correct, you can do it all over
> > again without me, it's what everyone does anyhow. If i cannot have pride in
> > working *with* anyone, i can take pride in beating you to it.
>
> If you'd write more often objective, problem oriented posts, staying to
> the topic, rather than polemic posts, then the chances that people would
> like to work together with you probably will increase. This is meant as
> a serious hint.
I seriously was on topic before, and said i had the data, all you had to do
was ask about it for the cities you were interested in. Instead, i got a list of
reasons from you why you weren't asking.
Kat
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